Ya, a start might be the list that California just banned in 2027: brominated vegetable oil, propylparaben, Red No. 3 (erythrosine), and potassium bromate. The FDA just revoked brominated vegetable oil use this month (hello every Mountain Dew you drank). All have been implicated as carcinogens and mostly been banned elsewhere around the world, many since 50 years ago. How have they let industrial poisons in our food so long when everyone else knows better?
I don't know man, we had a milk cow when I was a kid and I grew up drinking raw milk. We just strained it through cheesecloth and put it in the fridge. I'm still here and don't recall any kind of sickness other then getting kicked by a cow one time.
I suppose mixing raw milk in bulk might result in the spread of pathogens. Not really an expert on the topic, other then I'm pretty sure raw milk isn't necessarily poison.
Raw milk always has these anecdotes about their local cow. And ya, if you’re getting it from down the street, there’s much less chance of pathogens and I don’t believe governments ever care about banning that. That’s why the most common US state law is legal from a farm but not retail. The actual conflict is about the 99% of people without access to a local cow but wanting to buy it at a grocery store. That distribution method doesn’t seem to have the timeline or rigor to ensure that raw milks integrity.
The point is, if the US gov says "X is poisonous", there is currently a significant amount of Americans that loudly and aggressively claim, with the support of several actual politicians, that such a statement MUST mean that X is actually good for you and the evil government is trying to actively kill you <for handwave reasons, usually because it's evil>, so consume as much X as possible.
Even though I'm not a libertarian, I can't help but engage when people invoke them in threads that had nothing to do with libertarians, with some nonsense like raw milk is poison and libertarians demand access to it.
Its so weird to me how people make it a hobby of doing that, especially when the whole libertarian thing is minding your own business. Why hate those people?
>especially when the whole libertarian thing is minding your own business.
Because the vast majority of people who SAY they are Libertarian, are very much not libertarian. They also want to deconstruct a functioning government for ideological reasons, regardless of who that will hurt.
> Ehh..a lot of thing are “implicated as carcinogens”, it doesn’t mean they are.
Well it's worth asking the question though, if only 1% of these suspected carcinogens truly are carcinogens, or act in combination as carcinogens you potentially have hundred thousands of cancers caused by things as dumb as "colorant to make the chips red" or "oil that's 1% cheaper than the healthy alternative".
The vast majority of cancers are lifestyle related so if you can eat clean, exercise every day, be lean, avoid pollutants, avoid diet (known and suspected) carcinogens you improves your odds quite a lot.
Coffee has been around forever so the good thing is that you can rule it out as a cause of new unexplained rises. What hasn't been around forever are 900cal starbucks "coffee" with three times the daily recommended daily amount of sugar for example.
Another thing is that we spray virtually all our crops with chemicals having a skull, a dead fish and a cancer sign on the bottle
But you're missing the point - people get worked up about things that "might be carcinogenic" like food dye, but then willingly ingest something we know are carcinogenic.
