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I'm pretty sure almost everyone sending messages from an iPhone to another is using it.


Even iPhone users in Europe tend to just use WhatsApp. It's the default there, largely because of the history of carriers charging thru the nose for SMS back in the day...when WhatsApp offered "free" messaging (uses tiny amounts of your data plan), it took off.


> Even iPhone users in Europe tend to just use WhatsApp

Europe is not that homogenous, WhatsApp isn't even the most popular messaging app in much of Central/Eastern Europe and Scandinavia (in addition to that iOS has a similar/higher market share in Norway/Sweden/Denmark than it does in the US).

> of the history of carriers charging thru the nose for SMS back in the day.

Again, this wasn't the case in every European country (where I am text messages were already free or very cheap in the early 2010s so WhatsApp didn't really take off that much and FB Messenger is still quite a bit more popular to this day because it worked on PCs/browsers and most stuck to it when smartphones were becoming popular ).

same applies to Britain and Switzerland.


Doesn't iMessage predate WhatsApp for sending data based messages? I recall that being an early selling point.


I'm from Europe and live in Hong Kong, in both places, iMessage to us is like Edge for Windows users: a gimmick we see auto-installed but we dont use. So many people don't have an iPhone, and we change phone number every few months anyway. The US experience might be diff, and Europe / Asia aren't a single country, so maybe it even varies within.


> I'm from Europe

> in both places

> so maybe it even varies within.

Definitely Europe is not as homogenous as that. I do also live in Europe, people do use iMessage (or just text messages in general) where I am (to a much smaller extent than the FB messenger for instance which is much bigger than WhatsApp here).

And any meaningful number of people changing their phone number every few months is certainly not my experience whatsoever. Pretty much everyone I know have had the same number of years or over a decade or even longer.


Yeah I used it because the original comment did: ofc Europe is not a real homogeneous place.

I'm from Normandy to be hyper precise, and there, we don't have much iPhones or use iMessage. I certainly never heard of isolation due to lack of iMessage: we use sms or whatsapp.

In Hong Kong, it's common, maybe only among immigrants like me, to change number often, it just is, everyone I know does it, we just migrate with whatsapp. We do it to reduce the spam explosion over time as we give our numbers to more and more people, or to switch to cheaper 5G plans over time or stuff like that. I certainly hate now keeping a phone number too long, it just feels unsafe.


addandsubtract is referring to low usage rates of iMessage in Europe compared to other messaging systems, especially Whatsapp.




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