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Six months of free same-day delivery, but what's the value of my purchasing data to Google? Shouldn't testers be compensated for that, or does that fall under the altruistic "Google needs your help?" Am I to think of Google as just another buddy who needs a lift to the bus station?


I'm sorry, but I fail to see how six months of free same-day delivery somehow doesn't count as compensation.


There are two elements provided to Google here: service viability and the purchasing data from the testing period.

It's certainly open to debate, but I'm questioning that the delivery itself is compensation enough for everything that Google is receiving from the testers. Obviously Google (and you) thinks this, but I don't agree that there's only one possible value-based assessment of the relationship.


Whether or not free same-day delivery is fair compensation for your participation is a relevant topic.

But your characterization of it I found disingenuous: "Am I to think of Google as just another buddy who needs a lift to the bus station?"

There's no reason for the snark, and to pretend like Google is just trying to score a freebie like your hypothetical mooching friend is framing the argument disingenuously. The cost of delivering something same-day is non-trivial - Google is not expecting a freebie, though you are of course welcome to value your privacy above that dollar amount.


I don't think that it's unreasonable to say that Google gets the purchasing data for free in this deal, but these things are quantifiable, right? The value of the shipping and the value of the data? The data might be harder to arrive at a number, though, since purchasing data can be reused over and over for different metrics, increasing its value.


Yeah, but you're not all that. Same day delivery has a pretty decent value.


I'm not sure what, "you're not all that" means, but as mentioned elsewhere, Webvan and Kozmo provided the same product and, I'm guessing, value...for naught.


And you don't think they were storing that delivery data for mining and optimization purposes?


My point was the quant side.


This is what I call being entitled. You get free same-day delivery but it's not enough, he needs more than that.


You realize I'm just asking some questions, right?


'just another buddy who needs a lift to the bus station' makes it sound like they're mooching off you.


That Google could be considered a buddy is the hyperbole here, not the ride to the bus station.


come to think about it, it's more like they're giving you a ride to the bus station, while you complain that they're spying on your travel arrangements. I know the purchasing and delivery patterns in the aggregate constitute valuable economic information, but free same-day delivery has a non-zero economic benefit as well.


I know what I meant, but go ahead and ride that metaphor wherever you like!


Free market works - if there weren't enough people to try this out, Google would've certainly paid people to try this out. But I am sure there are a lot of folks who find this deal attractive.

EDIT: Fixed typo


Do you demand compensation from Amazon when it gives you free shipping?




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