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The big flaw in his argument is that a mere 1% which is actually 20% of annual return is still less than the average income tax rate on workers, levied on people who have a lot more money and in some cases don't do anything resembling work. It's trivially true that 1% wealth taxes represent something in the region of a fifth of the average annual return on wealth, it's rather less convincing when it's suggested that this is harsh compared with income tax when people who pay more than half their much lower income in overall taxes whilst working 60 hour weeks and actually worrying about paying bills.

There are arguments about wealth taxes inducing capital flight and investment disincentives, the difficulty of paying tax bills from illiquid intangible wealth or even quantifying it, and whether it's really a good thing to pressure people building a company to sell much of it off, but telling income tax payers that an effective tax rate of 20% is high isn't one of them...



> There are arguments about wealth taxes inducing capital flight and investment disincentives

If the US and the EU introduced a wealth tax then it would be relatively difficult for the capital flight fears to materialise. But yeah, the trouble with wealth taxes is that wealth (i.e. capital) is mobile.

Which is why land and property taxes are probably the most effective way of taxing wealth.


Switzerland has cantonal wealth taxes, as does Norway and afair Spain. Italy, Belgium, Netherlands have a somewhat equivalent one on money held in securities or savings accounts. It's not that big of a deal if the rate is low enough.


Most of us would not prefer to follow the EU into irrelevancy. If they were the model for how we should be running things how come they are not the ones running the show on innovation?


> Most of us would not prefer to follow the EU into irrelevancy. If they were the model for how we should be running things how come they are not the ones running the show on innovation?

I think innovation is a tricky thing to measure, firstly. Certainly the US benefits massively from the world's largest capital markets, sucking in foreign money from all over the world. Is that innovation? is it stock price, or is it the work of all the academics, engineers, tech people etc?

Like, Europe (and the EU at the time) is where Deepmind came from, without which we'd be vanishingly unlikely to have seen Transformers/LLMs etc. Nokia basically made mobile phones a global category. ASML provides something that neither the US nor China can match.

And just to note, property taxes make up a much larger proportion of state revenue in the US than in the EU, if that's how you're measuring things.

And i didn't say anything about how great the EU was, I just noted that the US & the EU make up most of the richest countries in the world, where rich people like to live, so a wealth tax would probably work relatively effectively at that level.

Obviously that's not going to happen, but land and property taxes could get us a lot of the way there, with much less issues with capital flight and tax collection.


> The big flaw in his argument is that a mere 1% which is actually 20% of annual return is still less than the average income tax rate on workers

This is untrue btw

50% of people in the US pay effectively no net taxes


No net income taxes.

They still pay payroll taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, and various other state or local taxes and fees.


Right, the overall tax burden is closer to flat.

https://itep.org/fairness-matters-chart-book-on-who-pays-sta...


Or put another way, are subsidized by others.


Or put another way, they already make so little money it isn't worth taking any from them.


> 50% of people in the US pay effectively no net taxes

Billionaires included, defence contracts and corporate subsidies count just as much as food stamps.




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