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> I'm tired of America with everything that's going on.

Yeah, me too. All that pesky saving the world stuff that we do on the regular is so exhausting sometimes.



“Saving the world” recently has meant being involved in wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Iran.

None of those have brought me a feeling of being part of saving someone.


Preventing the number one sponsor of terrorism from getting a nuke absolutely saves people. Even if you don't like the externalities of it. Or is the HN crowd still believing the "we just want nuclear energy (with highly enriched uranium)" story? I genuinely don't know. Humans have a near infinite ability to stare at the sun and insist it's dark, so long as it supports their world view.


Even US Intelligence didn't believe they were close to getting a nuke. And given that they were in negotiations about controlling their nuclear program before the US attacked, it's hard to credit US foreign policy on this front


Who has been saved? The US has been doing much more harm than good.




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