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Consider a big Carnot cycle. It's 100% reversible -- as efficient as you can get. No losses. And it's 100% reversible no matter what temperature it operates at.

The Carnot cycle is:

1. Isothermal compression (T_c) 2. Adiabatic compression (T_c -> T_h) 3. Isothermal expansion (T_h) 4. Adiabatic expansion. (T_h -> T_c)

The adiabatic compression and expansion processes are just to get between the two temperatures, T_hot and T_cold.

Suppose T_hot = T_cold.

Then there's no adiabatic section, and it's just

1. Isothermal compression (T) 2. Isothermal expansion (T)

The amount of energy out/energy in is T_h/T_c = 1.

This is a 100% efficient energy storage system. It is also our idealized cycle -- a gigantic, single Carnot cycle, storing energy in heat and in low entropy, highly compressed air.

Now, the Carnot efficiency, or the efficiency of a heat engine, is a completely different kind of efficiency. It's the TOTAL energy out divided by the heat in. This is

(W_out-W_in)/Q_in

In our case, the Carnot efficiency is zero, even though the cycle is reversible, and the energy storage process is completely reversible.

Interesting, no?



Interesting indeed, and thanks for the reply. I almost understand it, unfortunately I just returned from our Melbourne Cup party, where lots of wine was consumed. For now, I concede that your concept seems theoretically possible, best of luck!




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