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Rather than provide an academic argument as to why HTML5 apps are as good as native, it would be better to provide great examples of where it has worked. Even Steve Jobs originally thought web apps were all you needed but he was eventually convinced otherwise.

In short, how about some proof by example? Lots of examples...



I've always wondered why the App Store was a web app. It seems really out of place considering its job is to distribute native apps.

On the other hand it has probably been the driving force to make mobile safari better.


Probably so that they can make iterations on its design without requiring people to download new software updates - a huge attraction of web apps.


I guess my question then is, why does that hold more true for the App Store than for any of their other native apps?


Their other built-in apps don't involve as much marketing efforts inside them and don't drive post-purchase sales.

I guess there is Newsreader or whatever but I haven't used it and can't comment on it.


Because the iTunes platform is written in Java with a legacy web framework called WebObjects. Also the iTunes business unity has more characteristics in common with Amazon than Apple itself. That's why we're stuck with a thin client for the AS.


> There is no question that native apps provide better UI's

This is was me talking about mobile. Then I went on to explain why. So I don't think I need to provide any examples there.

As for HTML5 on the desktop you can peruse the Chrome Web Store to find some good stuff. iCloud.com is actually an excellent example of HTML5 done right (for the most part).


As you may know, iCloud is written in SproutCore. If you compare the development process and programmer productivity of SC with let's say Cocoa, you'll see SC can't get near Cocoa in these aspects. It's a mess.


Your html5 done right example fails to work on all three browsers on my phone (opera,firefox,native). Quite a performance...


> HTML5 on the desktop

I wasn't talking about mobile.

Try iCloud.com on Mac Safari, it's quite nice. Not sure what browsers Apple is targeting for this.

My assumption is that the 5 major desktop browsers can host web apps of this quality if the app developer chooses to target them. Hopefully as time passes the "chooses to target them" part won't be an issue if standards-compliance is a norm.


One fairly obvious example would be that facebook still have twice as many users on their web app as their native




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