>I have heard great things about the Rivian trucks. They seem to have rabidly loyal customers, like the Teslas

Dead last...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/research/2025/10/24/cons...

And have you seen the stories about fender benders?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns...

https://axleaddict.com/news/a-small-rivian-r1t-dent-just-cos...

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/7-months-later-an...

https://insideevs.com/features/669752/rich-rebuilds-rivian-r...

Your linked article does say Rivian ranked first in satisfaction, which does support the GP’s “rabidly loyal.”

Nice catch thx!

From your first fender-bender link: “So a $42,000 rear bumper replacement seems exorbitant, but Apfelstadt says he’s happy with his truck.”

The bed is only 4.5' long. The 5.5' short bed available on an F150 Lightning is too short for me, the ICE F150 with a 6.5' bed at least lets you have flat sheet goods with the tail gate down.

For $70-100K, I'd hope so.

From what I understand, many of these jacked-up compensator trucks cost a similar amount.

I remember when pickups were considerably cheaper than cars, but no more.