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Depends.

Can they get rid of Typescript, npm, Github, VS, VSCode, .NET, C#, F#, C++ / DirectX, Next.js, vcpkg, Microsoft contributions to Java, Rust, and Linux kernel, on their students teaching materials?

If they can switch to UNIX FOSS technologies with zero trace of Microsoft's money sponsorship, and hinder the students careers in specific job markets, then surely.

People usually never look beyond getting rid of Office and Windows.



The problem is described in the first two sentences of the article:

> "The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court suddenly couldn't access his email. According to Microsoft, that's because of US sanctions against the court's employees."

Nothing you've listed relates to that.

If American services and platforms have become unreliable and untrustworthy because the American government is erratic, then it's only natural that European organisations will look for alternatives.

DirectX is a funny one to list because 90% of Windows games run on Linux. WINE and Proton solve that problem for you:

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/nearly-90-percen...


Yes it is, see my last sentence.

Without Windows developers, game studios using Windows, Visual Studio and DirectX, SteamOS would have no games.

Proton represents Valve's failure to make a business out of Steam OS native games.

Funny will be when Microsoft decides Proton is a relevant target to aim for, and shot down by all means necessary.


> Proton represents Valve's failure

No, it represents a market opportunity. WINE (a European led project) effectively makes Win32 and DirectX into Linux APIs. It works well for games. You can bring those games to Linux with less effort. And Valve can offer SteamOS (based on Arch Linux, also a European led project) for less cost.

You don't need Visual Studio. JetBrains has nice, cross-platform IDEs and they're a European company to boot:

https://www.jetbrains.com/


Now go see how many game studios use JetBrains.

As for Proton, don't build castles on foreign kingdoms => OS/2 "runs Windows better", Netbooks.

Lets see how long Valve manages to keep their castle up.


> don't build castles on foreign kingdoms

Microsoft is a foreign kingdom to Europe. That's part of the problem.


Which is why I listed several Microsoft dependent technologies that Europe kingdom guards have to stop the merchants from Microsoft kingdom trade at the borders.

Without wagons carrying Windows game boxes, there is nothing at the SteamOS theater to play, and then the actors have to actually come up with their own original plays.


What do you believe will happen? Wine exists. It will continue to exist.

You can do development with Wine without a copy of Windows:

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Winelib-User's-G...


Why should they get rid of the Linux kernel?


Because Microsoft contributions, including being one of the Rust on the kernel sponsors.


How will Microsoft or the US government stop anyone from using those Linux contributions now that they've been contributed?

They're GPL licenced. They're open source. They're freely available.

They're sanction proof.


The point is using Microsoft stuff, instead of alternatives, not what Microsoft can do.


No, the point is precisely what Microsoft can do. This is all about sovereignty of the computers you use, the software you use, and control of your data.

But I'm glad to see you concede the point.


As long as we depends on any Microsoft technology, the dependency won't go away, thinking the problem is only Windows and Office is throwing to the eyes of the public.

To achieve Microsoft freedom, you have to have 100% Microsoft free technology, from computer, operating systems, programming languages, hosting services, communication platform, social media, job platforms, the whole deal.


You've already conceded the point that once it's contributed to Linux Microsoft can't yank it away again.

If Microsoft wants to stop contributing that's perfectly fine. Others will maintain it.

That's what's great about big open source projects like Linux. It's another great project originating in Europe.




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