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> Many are filled with kids that aren't there to learn.

That's on the kid, not contingent on whether school is public.

> most here report being bullied.

Anecdotes like this are not worth much. What do the stats say?

> There is really nothing intrinsically good about the average public school.

Schools don't just socialize, though that is also important. Whether they succeed at educating well depends on more than one factor, but policy & curriculum is clearly one. Kids are better prepared in some countries than others, still through public systems.

If people want to homeschool, let them. Public school should still be assessed accurately.



>That's on the kid, not contingent on whether school is public.

Yes and no. The interest of the kid to learn is on the kid/family, for sure.

However, the fact that a kid who has no interest in learning is forced to go to public school is a function of how public schools operate.

Again, free and required is a bad model. They should either be free and selective or, less ideally, available and costly.


You're assuming that school is decidedly negative if at the outset a kid doesn't "have an interest" in learning. I disagree.


> Again, free and required is a bad model. They should either be free and selective or, less ideally, available and costly.

This is a good way to ensure the most vulnerable members of your society don't get educated. But I suppose that might be a feature to some people.


Educated or babysat?




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