> Evidently, I'm just imagining all the times my teachers went on strike in Illinois in the 2000s. There have not been any "right to work" laws in Illinois passed affecting teachers or firefighters since then. Evidently, it's all in my head that most blue states like IL, MN, MA, and NY have legal protections for public schoolteachers.
> I can't tell if you're honestly misguided or if you're an HR employee at Amazon trying to derail the thread
This isn't productive. It's belittling, snotty, and disrespectful. You're also clearly more than intelligent enough to recognize that you're putting in people's mouths claims they haven't made.
When you can't make a point, just resort to name calling and tone policing.
I'm definitely on point that most teachers in blue states have worker protections, job security, and lax hours that no software engineer has despite comparatively low pay. In Illinois, the top end of high school teacher salaries even crosses into six figures.
I can't recall one software engineering job with tenure, let alone tenure that vests after 5-7 years.
I also can't recall one software engineering job listing with a benefits package that has the same vacation as a child and civil servant-grade health insurance, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. If you find a job posting like that, let me know.
If parents still spanked their children, it would be the best semi-retirement gig a person can get.
Roughly half of public-school teachers in the US have tenure. According to my reading, teachers below the university level typically receive tenure in three years, not 5-7. And yet nearly half of teachers still don't have tenure. What does that tell you about turnover in the field? And can you think of any reasons why turnover would be so high?
Private-school teachers receive none of the protections that public-school teachers receive, and not all teachers are primary or secondary-school teachers. At the university level, teaching is increasingly the work of non-tenured staff, who have no job protections or job security, beyond guarantees that cover at most the current academic year, and their benefits are a bare shadow of what tenure-track faculty receive.
Teachers work longer hours than software engineers. This isn't self-imposed. Those are what the demands of the job require. There is no way to fulfill the average teacher's responsibilities with 40 hours of work per week. Their hours are longer, by necessity, and the stress level is far higher.
I'm a software engineer with experience in teaching. My benefits package as an SWE is vastly better than anything I received at my teaching job(s) or any of the teaching jobs I interviewed for.
So I can only repeat what I've already said: you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
> If parents still spanked their children, it would be the best semi-retirement gig a person can get.
> I can't tell if you're honestly misguided or if you're an HR employee at Amazon trying to derail the thread
This isn't productive. It's belittling, snotty, and disrespectful. You're also clearly more than intelligent enough to recognize that you're putting in people's mouths claims they haven't made.