It was a clear violation, the rest of this is just posturing for politics. Most of the people had come on the wrong visa, knowingly. So either the company lied, or the employees are lying, or both.
>Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa
>At least one of the Korean workers swept up in a huge immigration raid on a Hyundai Motor factory site in Georgia last week was living and working legally in the US, according to an internal federal government document obtained by the Guardian.
>Officials then “mandated” that he agree to be removed from the US despite not having violated his visa.
>According to the file written by an agent with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), an agency within Ice, the man entered the US “with a valid B1/B2 visa”, which allows for some business-related activities and tourism. He was at the Hyundai factory as a contractor with a South Korean company.
Is the blatant violation of the rights and dignity of at least one person not alarming enough for you? Shouldn't the rights of individuals be respected? And can a society that willingly turns a blind eye to such incidents still be called a constitutional state?
I don't entirely disagree with your position, but I'd still like to know. Or to put it another way:
When the media so blatantly cherry-pick what they choose to report and what they turn a blind eye to, can such a misinformed society really be called a democracy?
The entire crusade against "illegal immigrants" in the US is built on misinformation. Pretty much everything the Trump administration has said about, well, everything, has been a thinly veiled lie.
Its not misinformation vs the governments word. Its misinformation vs populist pseudo-fascist misinformation.
If the government is telling you or us that these workers did not have valid visas, that probably means that at least some definitely did have valid visas.
You're very sure about it without all the details being known and people possibly still wanting to get out safely, without causing further conflicts by speaking out. I've done enough travel / border chats that if I ended up in their situation, I'd be keen to shut up and get out as soon as possible, regardless of my legal status.
Exactly! But now they’re going to claim special treatment, avoid responsibility, and show their true attitudes beneath the surface: they don’t respect you or your laws.
This is not caused by Trump; its latent attitude being surfaced.
You have to ignore just about every other part of the story to arrive at this breathless conclusion.
Let’s remember that for this project alone Hyundai invested more money than 99% of us will ever see into this country, and more sum labor hours than any of our individual lives. That’s not what disrespect looks like.
Maybe their visas were not in order so ok enforce that. But not by having their engineers perp walked on live television.
As a side note, if we are going to judge the Hyundai engineers then we must also believe that Elon Musk should have been deported due to his well known early career visa violations. or be damned as hypocrites.
So even tho they broke the law, their treatment was unfair because ... money? Got it. And the embarrassment of being recognized for the crime they committed? Those poor souls - true injustice!
Their treatment was unfair because ICE is a domestic terrorism organization and they got fucking propaganda paraded on live television.
Look around you. Is this really the US you want to be living in? Are you really so pathetic as to be proud of this?
What kind of people do we want to be? Do we really want to be cruel cunts and wave around a "well it's technically legal!!1!" flag? Is that who YOU want to be? Is that how the US should treat allies which invest billions into our economy?
I see. So, when SK perp walks its own illegal migrant arrests on TV, it's "totally fine" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEqFXzeTm5w). But if the US does it to criminal South Koreans? "Propaganda! Propaganda! Propaganda!" Hmm, a racist double standard you'd like to preserve?
So...arresting crims in the US (but not SK) and locking up psychos who dismember young Americans is (for you) 'domestic terrorism', because you're ... fine with rampant crime and bloodshed against Americans? But "terrified" of Americans feeling safe, and society being peaceful? Huh, okay. Are you South Korean and lacking empathy?
Or are you in fact MS-13 or TDA? Or ... I know this dates me a bit, Al-Qaieda or Daesh? If not, maybe apply today. You're already making them proud. Good on you, you've found your purpose!
