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Do you feel that you are shifting goalposts a bit when quibbling over whether AI will kill everyone in 2030 or 2035? As of 10 years ago, the entire conversation would have seemed ridiculous.

Now we're talking about single digit timeline differences to the singularity or extinction. Come on man.



> 10 years ago, the entire conversation would have seemed ridiculous

Bostrom's book[1] is 11 years old. The Basilisk is 15 years old. The Singularity summit was nearly 20 years ago. And Yudkowsky was there for all of it. If you frequented LessWrong in the 2010s, most of this is very very old hat.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence:_Paths,_Dang...

[2]: Ford (2015) "Our Fear of Artificial Intelligence", MIT Tech Review: https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/02/11/169210/our-fear-...


It is a bit disquieting though that these predictions instead of being pushed farther away are converging to a time even closer than originally imagined. Some breakthroughs and doomsday scenarios are constantly placed thirty years into the future; this seems to be actually getting closer earlier than imagined.


For the people imagining it yes

For many of us the conversation hasn't gotten any less ridiculous just because computers can talk now


> just because computers can talk now

I find it astounding that some people appear completely unable to grasp what this really means and what the implications are.


I see them as funhouse mirrors, the kind that reflect your image to make you skinny or fat, except they do it with semantics, big deal. I've never had an interaction with an llm that wasnt just repeating what I said more verbosely, or with compressed fuzzy facts sprinkled in.

There is no machine spirit that exists in a box separately from us, it's just a means for people to amplify and multiply their voice into ten thousand sock puppet bot accounts, that's all I'm able to grasp anyway. Curious to hear your experience that's led you to believe something different.


Well, the first goal was 1997, but Skynet sure screwed that up.


Well, they can still go back in time and change things


I'm in my 30s and remember my friend in middle school showing me a website he found with an ominous countdown to Kurzweil's "singularity" in 2045.


> ominous countdown to Kurzweil's "singularity" in 2045

And then it didn't happen?


Not between 2027 and 2032 anyway.


I mean... neither of those is going to happen so it's pretty silly.




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