Epic wanted their own store and they got their own store. It cost them and Apple a bunch of money, which indirectly is not good for anyone's customers... my sense of justice is not perplexed as to why they are not allowed back in.
Would you want to do business with someone who just sued you after breaking their previous contract with you?
> Epic wanted their own store and they got their own store.
They don't. Quoting the article:
> "Apple has blocked our Fortnite submission so we cannot release to the US App Store or to the Epic Games Store for iOS in the European Union," Epic stated via its Fortnite account
If someone prevents me from selling my own product in my own store then it's not my store.
It's not your fucking store - it's Epic's. It's not Apple's fucking store - It's Epic's.
You know what? It's also not fucking Apple's phone anymore, it's the damn phone of the customer who paid to buy it. They should be the only party who gets to decide whether they can install perfectly functional applications on it.
Apple keeps trying to twist that fact away, over and over again - They are morally in the wrong. Clearly so.
If you think it's a customer's phone and not Apple's, do you agree that customer should own EPIC account (be able to sell, transfer it, that EPIC can not terminate it)? I think it makes sense to apply the same logic either for both cases or for none.
I think visible frustration is appropriate given that even US based judges think Apple is being wildly inappropriate, to the point of recommending criminal contempt.
I think that's an appropriate note for an adult discussion here.
I think I'm very, very tired of Apple apologists flooding HN.
I think this comment is a classic "Woe is me you used potty language!" style distraction from the issue at hand, and isn't an appropriate response.
ah shut up. who made the app store? who made you buy this phone?
epic = another greedy freeloader. since the first iphone people paid apple FOR the store IT made. if current government together with the courts support your opinion that shows how braindead your opinion is
I suspect they just put their eggs in one basket and used the same package identifier for the DMA version of Fortnite and the App Store version, and the app’s state in review limbo messed with the iOS notarization process (which is a minimal review and not an automated CLI like macOS).
That’s something they could’ve avoided by using different IDs for different stores, like everyone else does on e.g. Amazon AppStore. (Maybe even Samsung and Play Store use different IDs)
But that’s assuming they’re not just refusing to release anywhere until Apple relents in the US.
But they didn't get their own store. They're still blocked from distributing to iPhones everywhere except the EU. And that process is incredibly user hostile (for which Apple will likely receive another fine for violating the DMA).
As I say above, Apple is legally permitted to do this, but I think they're inviting additional and heavy-handed legal interdiction. They're burning so much of their brand and goodwill on this war against developers. They went so far as to risk actual prison time for their executives, just so they could screw developers out of as much money as possible.
Epic wanted their own store and they got their own store. It cost them and Apple a bunch of money, which indirectly is not good for anyone's customers... my sense of justice is not perplexed as to why they are not allowed back in.
Would you want to do business with someone who just sued you after breaking their previous contract with you?