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I think it starts with undermining the values: Note the disparagement of freedom, of knowledge, science, and education as ways humans can make their world better - even the idea of making the world better and of truth itself; of the rule of law rather than the rule of power, and the embrace of violence, athletics, etc. Notice the contempt for the enlightenment and embrace of ancient Rome and other sub-democratic or dictatorial government.

I don't think it's accidental; I think people have a plan to bring down institutions, and it's working so far.



I don't think it's accidental either but the way to understand why it's happening is to ask who benefits from it. In most cases it would seem to be, Putin. He benefits from diminishing US, from stopping US support for democracy all over the world.

If the whole world is governed by say 3 dictators they can easily make peace with each other and share the spoils. But they won't because wars will increase their domestic support. Orwell wrote about this.


It wasn’t the MAGA movement that started dismantling Western culture in the US.

That’s been happening from Leftist criticism for generations.


> That’s been happening from Leftist criticism for generations.

I'm talking about the principles: freedom, rights, and self-determination as self-evident, essential goods; progress as essential and good (real progress, not padding bank accounts); knowledge as the way humans can change their world; and knowledge provided by science and scholarship.

The left has criticized many things as lacking in knowledge and threats to freedom and rights, and the institutions, but not these principles.

> It wasn’t the MAGA movement that started dismantling Western culture in the US.

It was a branch of conservatives before them, but MAGA has fully embraced it. Look at the denial of freedom and human rights, replaced by a naked, aggressive embrace of oppression and cruelty. Look at the contempt for those things and progress, in the name of power. Look at replacing science with ideological disinformation - at even aggressively destroying science - even when it costs millions of lives, such as during a pandemic. How much blood is on their hands - how many needless deaths? Nobody talks about it.


Do you mean academic Marxists or something?

Their impact outside of minor student circles has been 0. And for sure none of those are MAGA or Le Pen or AfD voters...




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