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I vote. I am 50. I have voted in every election I was able to. In my life my preferred candidate has won exactly twice: Obama’s second term and Biden’s first. This includes local, state elections, and national.

To quote George Carlin: “If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it”.

Trump lost in 2024 but took the win because his cronies disqualified enough voters in enough states to win.

So, please, spare me. We’re up to violence already. You’re just well behind the times unfortunately.



Don’t mean to be antagonistic here, but do you have a source for the claim that trump took the win?

Would be really curious to see how this could be proven or at the very least convincingly induced.


Go look for how many ballots were disqualified in the swing states?


I googled around, but I couldn't find an authoritative source showing either the numbers disqualified, the reasons, and that those ballots were majority not-trump ballots.

Can you provide a source for that data for a specific swing state of your choice?


“My preferred candidate only one twice” is the hallmark of a “only the federal govt elections matter” midwit. The federal government is the least effective way to lead on regulatory change. California has demonstrated leadership this way repeatedly.

>So, please, spare me. We’re up to violence already. You’re just well behind the times unfortunately.

There have been nut-jobs saying this and inflicting violence since the beginning of the country. Then there are people who actually affect change. Pick a side.


Contra Carlin, if voting didn’t matter they wouldn’t be putting so much effort into making it harder.


Your argument is, violence is an option, because your preferred candidates don't win as much as you like?

I would see a point in saying voting is pointless, because no matter who you vote for, all end up on the payroll of the people doing enshitification. But not because your side always loose. Because this then won't likely change when you turn to violence - your side will be still the smaller one and we tried the whole voting thing, to not have all arguments solved with bloodshed.




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