On what basis? There is no right to employment in the US Constitution, and companies are simply practicing good capitalism by purchasing the most effective workforce at the lowest cost from a global labor pool.
If you want to live in a society where your life has value beyond that which a market rapidly converging on slave labor and AI can extract from you, I guess maybe move to a country where "socialism" isn't a dirty word.
There is no right to globalism in the constitution either: any and all of those behaviors can and should be regulated if it is in the best interest of the US citizens.
There is no right to globalism, and thus the US government isn't forcing companies to be globalist. Globalism is simply the inevitable result of capitalist incentives in the global marketplace, and the US has benefited greatly from it. Not all Americans, obviously, but certainly those that capitalism is intended to benefit (the capitalist class.)
And I guess the petite-bougeousie of the American tech class is getting a rude awakening that they're just labor after all, and thus not entitled to eat from the table they set.
Market incentives are influenced by policies the US gov sets, so globalist capitalists monopolizing US markets is the inevitable result of US gov policies. Ever heard of Anti-trust laws? They could be updated for the global economy any time.
Banning all American companies from outsourcing or hiring foreigners would result in complete financial isolation, collapse and likely balkanization of the US, and ironically far worse employment prospects for Americans than currently exist. All modern Western capitalist power depends upon the exploitation of a foreign underclass.
Yes, theoretically, the US could pursue its own Sakoku as a suicidal policy of "nativist" self-reliance but the premise that they ever would is ridiculous. I know people in this thread couldn't care less, but policy is set by people who actually do.
Americans can compete with Indian, Chinese and Mexican labor when they're willing to work for Indian, Chinese and Mexican wages, end of.
Just not true. The H1B visa program didn't exist until the 1990s.
In fact, until passage of the Hart-Celler Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, the US was under strict immigration restrictions established by the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. During that time we assimilated the Ellis Islanders, beat the Great Depression, out-produced the Axis to win World War 2, split the atom, rebuilt Europe and Japan, electrified the country, fed the world with our Green Revolution, invented the transistor, cured polio, invented the integrated circuit, and built the Empire State Building, Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam and interstate highway system. Cheap tech labor benefits a small club of men at the top, such as Elon and paulg. It is not essential to the success or prosperity of America or the American people.
An America where children must study 24/7 and work 80 hours a week as slavish, soulless drones to compete with indentured servants from every corner of the world is not a country I want to live in. It's not the country I was promised nor the future I voted for, and I'm going to fight to make sure it doesn't happen.
>During that time we assimilated the Ellis Islanders, beat the Great Depression, out-produced the Axis to win World War 2, split the atom, rebuilt Europe and Japan, electrified the country, fed the world with our Green Revolution, invented the transistor, cured polio, invented the integrated circuit, and built the Empire State Building, Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam and interstate highway system. Cheap tech labor benefits a small club of men at the top, such as Elon and paulg. It is not essential to the success or prosperity of America or the American people.
To be clear, you're implying that all of these things, specifically, were the result of American anti-immigration policies and high wages for American workers?
Because I'm pretty sure America needed plenty of foreign help to split the atom, and that socialist programs like the WPA built much of the infrastructure you're talking about, and the interstate highways were built by government contractors and prison labor. And Americans may have invented the transistor, but the patents originated with Canadian, Austrian and German research. Of course, the cheap labor of manufacturing in China and elsewhere in Asia is responsible for the ubiquity and low cost of just about all electronics sold in the US. Almost everyone has something made by Sony or Panasonic, but no one has a Zenith TV anymore.
The "Green Revolution"... depended entirely on the cooperation of foreign governments, investment and labor. The US absolutely did not "feed the world with our Green Revolution," just as the US did not "win World War 2."
>Cheap tech labor benefits a small club of men at the top, such as Elon and paulg. It is not essential to the success or prosperity of America or the American people.
What's funny is that we're here on a board built for and primarily used by Silicon Valley tech people who make six figure salaries on the back of that labor, from H1-B visaholders to the South Americans cleaning their toilets down to the child slaves mining rare earth elements in the Congo, and were fine with it up until someone talked about them the way they talk about the foreign help.
And let's not pretend tech was ever about the success or prosperity of America or the American people. Ya'll got in it because you wanted to exit a billionaire like Zuckerberg or Musk with a little effort and a bullshit gimmick, while someone whose name you can't bother even trying to pronounce serves you a catered lunch at the commissary.
Yeah, sorry, you're just another one of the tomatoes.
>An America where children must study 24/7 and work 80 hours a week as slavish, soulless drones to compete with indentured servants from every corner of the world is not a country I want to live in.
Stop voting for the people who keep making it worse, then. Did you really think the globalist billionaire who never worked a real job and rarely paid his (often foreign) employees was a hero of the working man?
>Because I'm pretty sure America needed plenty of foreign help to split the atom
The whole point of my comment was that such truly high-skilled immigrants were able to arrive and thrive during the term of the Johnson-Reed Act. The rest of your critique on that point is ill-founded and irrelevant.
>Almost everyone has something made by Sony or Panasonic, but no one has a Zenith TV anymore.
Yes, tariffs will be needed to reshore those industries.
>The "Green Revolution"... depended entirely on the cooperation of foreign governments, investment and labor. The US absolutely did not "feed the world with our Green Revolution," just as the US did not "win World War 2."
You'd do well to read a biography of Norman Borlaug. He did a lot more than repackage Haber-Bosch. American charity during the 1960s and 70s is the only reason tens if not hundreds of millions of Indians are alive today. Whether that's ultimately in America's best interest remains to be seen.
The sweeping socialist polemics and corny "y'all" was very funny, thanks for the laugh.
>Green Revolution"... depended entirely on the cooperation of foreign governments
Habor-bosch fed the world, green rev was a gift of that refined process to a country that couldn't feed itself.
>And Americans may have invented the transistor, but the patents originated with Canadian, Austrian and German research
which of course would have been useless without boolean logic, invented by an american.
Most of your argument is a straw man against america the narrative. The US civil engineer corps developed the most useful part of our infrastructure - the hydroelectric dams. Historically, I don't think
the designs of critical national infrastructure was outsourced to immigrants to save a few bucks because to do so would be shortsighted and irresponsible.
>you voted wrong
as if there was a real choice offered and people should be assumed to have voted wrong and held accountable.
why would an american with a high cost of living (result of policy choices) be expected to work for a mexican wage? ill work for a mexican wage when i have a mexican cost of living, end of.
>why would an american with a high cost of living (result of policy choices) be expected to work for a mexican wage?
Because they're competing against Mexicans who will do the job at that wage, and probably automation and AI, and there is no universe in which American companies simply decide to spend more on local labor without commensurate benefit. It isn't any American employers' problem that the market has determined the value of US labor to be less than the cost of living, and not worth investing in.
Perhaps the company should relocate to india or mexico and enjoy their infrastructure, labor, crime, and culture as a single package. Did you already forget crowdstrike? How much did that cost? Seems like your numbers are missing the tail end risks of reducing standards because that is an externality. Maybe that's why immigration law isn't suppose to be written by companies.
No, "We the People" grant property rights and other favors to businesses. If they act against the best interests of the country then they can be appropriately taxed. There's no need to resort to full blown communism on account of unpatriotic behavior from our businesses.
If you want to live in a society where your life has value beyond that which a market rapidly converging on slave labor and AI can extract from you, I guess maybe move to a country where "socialism" isn't a dirty word.