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Reminds me about that NATO joke:

“What kind of war?”

“Russia is fighting NATO.”

“Are you serious?”

“Yes, yes! Russia is fighting NATO.”

“So how’s it going?”

“Well, 70,000 Russian soldiers are dead. The missile stockpile has almost been depleted. A lot of equipment is damaged, blown up.”

“And what about NATO?”

“What about NATO? NATO hasn’t even arrived yet.”



US and NATO personnel, equipment and cash have been in Ukraine for almost a decade now. Operation Sea Breeze couldn't have happened otherwise.


not sure why this is downvoted, it's 100% correct. more specifically, a lot of NATO support following Euromaidan and "separatist" fighting 2014-2015.

after a few black eyes fighting the Little Green Men, the AFU leaned hard on NATO assistance for training and armament.

it's why the Ukrainians held out against Russia, and why Russia struggled so much -- they thought they were fighting the 2015 AFU, not the 2022 AFU.


It's probably downvoted because they put "personnel" first, but we all know the number of NATO soldiers in the conflict is essentially 0.


"Essentially" is carrying a lot of weight in that sentence. NATO _personnel_ (not necessarily soldiers, but officers and staff) have been active in Ukraine since 2014-15.


Well why don't you estimate the number and compare it to the total size of _personnel_ so people could judge if that number is indeed essentially zero? (spoiler alert, it is)




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