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The current speculation by the right-o-sphere that Alex Jones is about to be appointed the Trump press secretary is apt for the moment where Trump seems to have made his nominations on the basis of how much they will disturb the left. It's hard to imagine anyone that could be more effective at achieving that than Jones.


If by "the left" you mean pretty much anyone non-kkk then yes he's an excellent nomination and while we're at it, let's skip those useless political details as "what is left" anyway (yes, sarcasm).


The KKK hasn't been relevant since Jerry Springer dredged them up for his show in the 90s, you may need to update your roster of Boogeymen.


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It's more like polite society has become less relevant. The pussy footing around and talking out of both sides of your mouth just doesn't work anymore.


> The pussy footing around and talking out of both sides of your mouth just doesn't work anymore.

It took me a while to parse this, are you saying that lying doesn't work anymore???


But that hasn’t happened.


... except it has, on many occasions. Seeing neo-nazis at conservative rallies is a much more common event than it was 20 years ago.

And before anyone says, "well you call everyone neo-nazis!" Erm, self-proclaimed neo-nazis. They call themselves that.


When?


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Are you sure that referring to an event from 8 years ago as an example of a much more common phenomenon is in good faith? Your second example doesn't specify exactly how large the gathering was, but from the context of the article it sounds like it was maybe a dozen people. What threshold are you using for "much more common"?


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I don't think you're being very charitable. I'm not playing dumb, I just don't think you've made your case, and "trust me, it's happening" is not much of an argument.


Please don't perpetuate ideological flamewars on HN, and please avoid tit-for-tat spats. These things are not what the site is for, and destroy what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


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Attacking other users will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are.

Also, please don't perpetuate ideological flamewars on HN, and please avoid tit-for-tat spats. These things are not what the site is for, and destroy what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


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Again you have provided zero links showing that there is more Nazi activity than there was 20 years ago, which was your claim.


Please don't perpetuate ideological flamewars on HN, and please avoid tit-for-tat spats. These things are not what the site is for, and destroy what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


> And before anyone says, "well you call everyone neo-nazis!" Erm, self-proclaimed neo-nazis. They call themselves that.

You should watch the video before posting a link. Proud Boys don't call themselves neo nazis. Other parts of the video touch on stats about violence from who knows what source - left or right - and then touches on people "storming the capital" and "insurrection". So, nothing real or concerete and in particular nothing to do with neo nazis.

You're very quick to accuse others of not being in good faith.


Both left and right are assemblages of compromises flying in loose formation.


Vivek ramaswamy and Tulsi Gabbard and usha Vance and Marco Rubio.... Kkk has become very diverse lately /s.

Okay, but really... If you're going to criticize, can we at least make valid analogies?


I don’t think effective government is founded on the basis of lolz.


Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet?


Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet?

How do you make government smaller?

Step 1: Make government bigger by inventing a new department!

(Strictly speaking, it's not a government department. It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong?)


> It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong?

National Science Board is an external advisory board to the US gov. There's tons of examples of this sort of thing, especially in education and science.


The National Science Board was established by Congress, its activities are defined and governed by the law that created it, and it is clearly a part of the executive branch. Why do you consider it to be external to the government?


I'm guessing Doge would be regulated under this act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Advisory_Committee_Act...


If they actually follow the legal requirements listed in that article I will come back and apologize to you.


It would have to be by law.

The president can’t make a task force consisting of external advisors (non full time federal employees) in an official matter unless their activities are public and open to inspection.

Clinton got in trouble for this by putting Hillary on a Task Force in the early 1990s.


Pretty sure the National Science Board isn't co-chaired by a CEO and part owner multibillionaire with direct personal interests around government funded science projects though.


Not defending Doge just saying it's not new. Defence Business Board is a similar analogy. Plenty of people working at companies with gov contracts on the board during its history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Business_Board

https://dbb.defense.gov/Board-Members/


Nothing screams efficiency like 2 dept heads.


In fairness, the possibility the two heads' respective egos will cancel each other out is the most efficient thing about it...


And let's be perfectly clear - given two weeks in office they will be screaming at us.


Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy… They have two people running the Department of Government Efficiency


Whatever it is, it for sure has the lolzs as its basis.



I’ve found the testable hypothesis!


It's effective at disorientation and disbelief.


Well it also wasn't founded on whatever the hell we were doing before either


> It's hard to imagine anyone that could be more effective at achieving that than Jones.

Asking as a non-American: how disturbing would it be if he appointed Putin?


If you wanted your comment to hit a bit better, you might have considered, e.g., Lavrov.


I didn't know who that was until googling before replying, are you sure that's going to hit better with an American audience?

Either on Hacker News or as an "own the libs" choice for Trump?


He is owned by another foreign government.




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