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My bad. I wanted to say it’s practically dark at 3pm (even though the sun sets later). It’s not that there’s plenty of daylight until 1 second before the sun sets.


Exactly, especially when the clouds are so low you can't even see where the sun is shining from (common here in late autumn)


yah my coldest darkest winter ever was 1998 in Berlin.

still the light was okay until 4pm and the gas lights were turned on then or later not before...




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