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I think the "with food" bit is underrated. Bar/pub food in the West is crappy almost by definition (the occasional gastropub notwithstanding) and many/most people don't eat anything at all, while if you go drinking in Tokyo, food is an absolutely critical part of the izakaya (Japanese pub) experience.

It's also quite socially acceptable for women to go to an izakaya and drink oolong tea instead of alcohol all night long. The real social barrier for women is the next round of entertainment, which in sales circles very often entails prostitution in some form or another.



At least here in Australia you get pretty decent food at pubs I mean it's not going to blow your socks off but any pub worth it's name will serve a decent Chicken Schnitzel or Parmigiana. It's the high end hipster bars that tend not to do any food.

As a rule of thumb the more blue collar the pub the better the food will be - Builders Clubs and Trade Union associated places tend to have the best food followed by Sports clubs. These places have their own issues though namely poker/slot machines (Gambling is a big problem in this country).

I think the differences are mostly cultural I have zero desire to go out drinking with people from my workplace. We have exactly one social event a year - which is the work Christmas Party and that is a fairly tame event.


The RSLs I've been to in Australia also had decent food for a great price.

They're officially for veterans I believe but the ones in smaller towns tend to accept everyone because there isn't that much else around.


food at izakaya is a shared experience. Ordering dishes together, sharing, often getting beer or sake in bottles and pouring a glass for each other.

afaik, bar food most western places, even if it's good, is ordered for yourself and so way less social


I don't really see how this is the case, every single nice restaurant also has a bar and bar area, it's not like you have to go to Buffalo Wild Wings or something.


That's right, you have separate areas for dining (the restaurant) and drinking (the bar), and you choose one or the other, or at best sample both.

In a Japanese izakaya, they're inseparable, you eat while you drink.


Usually the only difference is style of seating. The food and drink menu is the same




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