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> Latinos, which, in addition to their Native American "base", have quite a lot (~20% ?) of European ancestry (and even more culture)

What? You can't just conflate culture or place of origin with ancestry.

Plenty of what you call "Latino" people have zero native american ancestry.



We're talking, by definition, about averages over groups of people here.

And I did mention culture, and how it might be different. Also, how do you NOT conflate "place of origin" with culture and/or ancestry, after all, memes and especially genes spread most effectively by proximity. (Especially before the modern era).

Also, this extremely strong claim of yours sounds dubious to me, any examples of self-described Latinos with actually zero native american ancestry ? As proved by either reliable and comprehensive family trees going back to the middle ages, or DNA analysis ?

Anyway, my point was that the current population of (especially Southern and Central) Americas is a result of heavy genetic (and cultural) mixing of Europeans and Americans, while the same thing doesn't seem to have happened for Sapiens and Neanderthal (roughly, then Africans and then Europeans ?), at least genetically (any clues for the culture ??)


> Also, this extremely strong claim of yours sounds dubious to me, any examples of self-described Latinos with actually zero native american ancestry ? As proved by either reliable and comprehensive family trees going back to the middle ages, or DNA analysis ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Latin_Americans

Case in point, me - my ancestors fled Europe in the early 20th century to a Latin American country due to lack of work, famine, wars and whatnot. One of them was Spanish, so by definition, I have Hispanic blood. Zero native american ancestry. You will see that this is a very common situation for many Latin Americans.

For more examples, see the Brazilian government whitening policy right that happened after slavery abolition. Lots of Europeans (Italians, Germans, Poles, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc) were brought to work in plantations and to decrease the relative % of the newly freed Black population.

When miscegenation happened, it was with Black people, as the Native Brazilian population was already decimated by this point.

This also happened in other countries, like Argentina.


Oh, my apologies, I didn't think of Europeans arriving much later. (And it's very unlikely that genes would go from Americas to Europe before the 20th century.)




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