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    The incentives in infosec are weird.
Full disclosure is the only honest way to operate. For everyone involved.

Much smarter folks than me have been saying it for decades.



Why should you be honest and open with companies? They for sure aren't with you.


It's not about companies. It's about their customers.

Do you even know what Full Disclosure is?


Why should the researchers or other vulnerability spotters care about the company's customers? The companies don't care further than what they can profit from the customers.

Yes, I know what full disclosure is. Companies don't do full disclosure about anything. Full disclosure is better than not disclosing publicly. But monetizing the vulnerability is akin to what companies do.

I find it utterly bizarre that it's totally OK and even lauded that companies are selfish profit maximizing machines that DGAF, but individuals should pamper them like babies.


Full disclosure isn't something for _companies_ to do. It's what _researchers_ do. Full disclosure isn't compatible with the monetization incentives offered by companies. You're publishing in public and immediately.

I think you clearly do not understand what full disclosure is.


My understanding of Full Disclosure is that researchers publish the vulnerability (and potentially exploit) publicly without coordinating with the software vendor. This contrasts with Coordinated Disclosure (sometimes "Responsible disclosure" in corporate propaganda) or No Disclosure (and potentially e.g. selling the exploit).

I admittedly used disclosure in a bit different sense for companies in that companies typically don't give out any (truthful) information they have if they aren't required by law. And they lie when profitable.

The symmetric action from a researcher is to sell the exploit to the highest bidder. Of course if the researcher wants to do other disclosures, that's fine too. But what I don't like is the double standard that researchers are scolded for being "unethical" but companies, by design, not caring about ethics at all is just fine and the way it should be.


But that's exactly why as a researcher you should operate under Full Disclosure. Properly motivate the companies to do what is right and don't take on questions about financial motivations, etc.




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