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You know, back in my day, sharp signs preceded channel names, and at signs let you know who the channel ops were.

The encroachment of Twitterspeak and Twittersigils into everyday English is a bad moon rising.



At some point in the past someone said "the encroachment of IRCspeak into everyday English is a bad moon rising" :)

I kinda agree. But then again I do find it has utility; people can use it to express emotion, which previously has been a sticking point for purely textual communications. Consider:

And then they all died! #upset #crying

versus:

And then they call died! #hellyeah

I quite like this sort of hacking.


I am always disheartened by the notion that anything beyond text is needed to express emotion or sarcasm. That's what writing is. By properly combining words, good writers can express almost anything, and more fully than with emoticons or tags.

However, the example you give is dark humor, so you win me over there.


I like this interview with Nabokov in 1969.

Q: How do you rank yourself among writers (living) and of the immediate past?

Nabokov: I often think there should exist a special typographical sign for a smile – some sort of concave mark, a supine round bracket, which I would now like to trace in reply to your question.


True. On the other hand most people are somewhere in the spectrum between bad and almost-good writers.

And even the best writers, when writing quickly in an immediate medium like the internet, can get it wrong.

I think that is the key; when interacting socially there is no need to make sure your writing is top notch and expresses your emotions adequately. You just stick a smilie on :)

Consider a real-life conversation. You wouldn't pause for several minutes to make sure the next sentence properly conveyed what you wanted to say. But you might smile and wink at the end of a put-down to show it was a joke.


At some point in the past someone said "the encroachment of IRCspeak into everyday English is a bad moon rising" :)

It was, and for that reason people who say "lol", or use it in blog posts, are difficult for me to take seriously.


I've always read "lol" as a sign that they don't actually want you to take what they're saying too seriously.


Back in my day, plus signs preceded channel names. Take your newfangled octothorpe channel names and go have your so-called nineteen-nineties.


Huh? You mean an ampersand? #/& were the original channel prefixes. The plus channel prefix (which means an unmoderated channel) did not come till later. Even then & prefixes have a different connotation from # channel prefix.


Seems like there were + prefixes before - https://www.alien.net.au/irc/chantypes.html

I can't remember exactly where I first encountered the plus prefix (it's been a long time), but I remember # and + more than &.


Huh? That says the + prefix came from RFC2811 which came out in 2000. So after RFC 1459 which only specifies &/# as channel prefixes.


meh, I enjoy it, I understand it's meaning, and it's crept into emails between my friends and I as well. Just another mannerism creeping into casual electronic communication to convey meaning whilst not face to face isn't a bad thing. Go find someone else to kick off your lawn.


Meh; its; my friends and me.

Three mistakes of grammar in a paragraph about relaxed written communication. A self-evidencing post!


Are you sure 'between my friends and me' is actually incorrect? It is a prepositional phrase, unless I'm mistaken. I admit to having little familiarity with the relevant grammar.

(Boy is this off topic!)


Maybe opinions are changing on this one, but the way I learned it is simple: refer to yourself as if the other person wasn't there. So:

Come to the store with my Dad and I. (no) Come to the the store with I.

Come to the store with my Dad and me. (yes) Come to the the store with me.

Dad and me went to the store. (no) Me went to the store.

Dad and I went to the store. (yes) I went to the store.

Remove the third party and it's immediately obvious which to use.


That rule is usually correct, but has some exceptions. Though 'between me' sounds better to my ear than 'between I'.

Regardless, 'me' is always correct as the object of a prepositional phrase because it's an object pronoun. 'I' is a subject pronoun.


haha touche. I've also noticed I've become completely unable to spell words with more than five letters, as spell checkers have been doing it for me for so long that I forgets my wurdz.

#grammersux


Okay, either I'm missing something glaring about the article or you posted this comment on the wrong thing. Which is it?


Nothing glaring, but he's probably referencing the (#awkward) comment in the blog.




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