I am a California voter who only votes Democrat, and I have voted for Newsom, but I wouldn't say I particularly like him. I don't know anyone who does. Are there people who really like him?
Yeah, that's a common opinion of Newsom that I hear all the time. I'd say it's pretty close to my opinion too.
But seeing him debate Hannity had something click for me. He is pretty sharp, and has some qualities that national democrats have seemed to lack. I started to think he may have a better chance at the presidency than people give him credit for. I start to think a lot of people haven't really gotten to know him, self included.
that's has to be verified, if any affordable housing was approved in reasonable distance from his current house.
Approving affordable housing in other's backyard is obviously not YIMBY.
there are many negative results of his management one can observe without talking to conservatives: pge bills and blatant crimes rise are some of them.
> While violent and property crime rates increased in 2021, both remain relatively low
That's pretty much it. I get so tired of internet discussions where people do not understand this, and I lost my patience to "converse curiously" with people who choose to remain ignorant of this in order to justify fear or anger or dehumanizing hate.
I've had countless discussions, including on HN, where you can cite this and people will sooner say that crime statistics are false, and specifically falsified in a way that destroys their argument, than admit being wrong or not having a complete perspective.
> I lost my patience to "converse curiously" with people
When this happens, simply refrain from commenting until you regain that patience. This forum only remains civil if we all make our best effort to keep it that way.
No, just someone who remembers the discourse about violent crime in the 90s, eg. It was much worse than today. American cities are universally much safer than when I was a kid. It makes the claim ridiculous.
You can't blame a governor for crime rates anyway. Nor can you draw much correlation to things like policing. It's idiotic and a juvenile view of how and why crime happens. These things happen from so many societal factors and it isn't politicians causing or preventing it.
But it's been a republican culture war wedge issue for a few years lately. Seems like you fell for the con.
> in 90s it was worse, then it got better, then current dems consistently making it worse again.
Call me when the murder rate reaches the 1990s peak. They haven't. I'll say again, American cities are much safer than they've been in my living memory.
> dems made small value crimes not felony,
This is a horse shit explanation. Firstly, that was a ballot initiative passed by will of the voters, probably because California prisons, like most US prisons, have been overcrowded and we have insanely high incarceration rates exceeding pretty much every other nation, which is not appropriate. Secondly, I think people who have looked at this will tell you it had no impact on crime rates. Unless they work for Fox news etc.
> that was a ballot initiative passed by will of the voters
that path is easily manipulated and compromised, because majority of voters don't have capacity to carefully review all propositions. And yes, population blindly supporting dems are also accountable for their actions.
Not interested to discuss your other statements, because I see them as low quality.
Are you seriously blaming the Democrats for the invention of misdemeanour crimes? Or for adjusting the threshold between misdemeanour and felony according to inflation?
Texas has misdemeanour theft to a far higher threshold than California… oops.
How is that relevant? GP was talking about the threshold for misdemeanor vs. felony crimes, and the fact that the threshold is higher in Texas than in California.
Criminals will do more crimes if they not stopped by measures. Measures can be punishment and police enforcement or citizens being able to self defend. In California dems are aggressively reducing both.
This is your conspiracy theory version of you got from conservative media. They're using perception of crime as a wedge issue, just like they used to do with abortion, or do currently with gay and trans bashing. They won't do anything different, and certainly nothing that works better. They just want you angry and afraid.
I don't watch conservative media, I just see more and more posts on r/bayarea about carjacking or blantant assaults and robbery, then I was thinking about buying gun and applying for ccw, and found about SB2 bill which prohibits ccw in most reasonable places.
