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And it’s antithetical to western values. Historically, we don’t do collective punishment - yet here we are.


> Historically, we don’t do collective punishment

Of course we do. We regularly sanction countries in ways which are designed to pressure the civilian population into overthrowing their government.


I'm sorry but having observed this since 24/02, collective punishment is very much part of the actual Western values.

(Disclaimer: I'm a Russian émigré, not in the West myself but have friends there.)


Ethnic cleansing of North America, Slave codes, yellow peril, Japanese internment, red scare, islamophobia, red scare 2.0 (ongoing), yellow peril 2.0 (ongoing)

And that's just USA.

What is "historically" supposed to mean here?




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