I agree. That's why I made http://no-ht.ml/

I submitted it to the site a few minutes ago.

If you serve this with:

    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

You can actually have no HTML at all

I did try that, but a few mobile browsers seemed to choke without at least something vaguely HTMLish.

I prefer “application/json”. The user can write their own interface.

What happens when server responds with text/plain and css?

https://blog.openreplay.com/incorporating-css-to-a-page-via-... (no time to check, only works in Firefox, but that's one idea on how to trick the system)

Upd: checked and it works (e. g. add `Link: <https://unpkg.com/chota@latest>;rel=stylesheet;media=all`)

Discussed on HN last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33645398 (32 comments)

Ah, cool, someone already had the same thought:

> I'll eagerly await the ASCII-only "You Don't Need Unicode"

the foreign language speakers here would like to have a word...

Good old codepage to the rescue!

(Yes, I know technically codepage isn't ASCII. I guess you could use box drawing extension to draw foreign language character if you wanted. Or maybe just SVG of the text)

please not codepages. finally being able to write multiple languages in a single document, which is something i need to do frequently, really makes a difference. codepages were a nightmare compared to the simplicity that unicode is in this aspect.

Yes, that's the joke.

They should have thought of that before they put non-ASCII characters in their language.

... but they couldn't...

The table didn't render that well for me: https://i.imgur.com/afFkYe1.png

I suggest you upgrade to a newer version of Internet Explorer.

I like the work you share Edent. Big fan of SuperTinyIcons!

Honestly your site is unnecessarily bloated with Unicode.

For an English language site, ASCII is enough.

I see you too read the flow chart.

Unless you go to a café.

These make me feel weird. On one hand, I love the way justified way it takes me back to old READMEs, GameFAQs, etc. but on the other all accessibility is thrown out the window.

Looks even better with view source on a dark background

This is art. Perfection, even.

Honestly, it looks really good. Cool work!

Nice ASCII art

Perfection

Great, finally back to the golden age of OS specific native applications with networking protocols.

The "No HTTP Club". Take a look at this beauty...

ftp://192.168.3.79/bestmo~4.txt

Of course, none of you have accounts, so please go ahead and postal-mail me for one, I'll get back to you in 6-8 weeks.

NO HTTP CLUB

PO Box 1147

Chungus AL 35035

Also no DNS club and quite likely no Unicode club as well (haven't checked)

> what could we ever need those pesky "tags" for?

Links.

Clicking on links is a bad idea, links are a bad idea. Besides from the horrendous potential for wasting your time you expose your reader to all kinds of dangers. Links could be changed in ways you don't control. They could point at offensive content, thinks you are not suppose to know, illegal things, phishing websites, hackers and much more you are better of not knowing about.

https://securityforeveryone.com/blog/unknown-danger-clicking...

Just like writing a program put all relevant information inline in the txt.

Not really if you know how to copy and paste :) (Keeping with the sarcastic tone of the ftl64 comment)

Hyper ones.

Made a CSS-only website just a few days ago https://www.kidsil.net/2023/07/css-only/

Look at Mr. hoity-toity here with his use of ASCII, as though ones and zeros alone can’t do the job.

No HTML and no HTTP would be even better, unironically.

right, because FTP was working just fine.

Telnet was clearly better.

well, obviously!

just the other day i logged into a MUD which presented me with an interactive world with a graphical map in color. the same MUD has a built-in http server so it can display the same information with the interactive and feature rich, yet compact telnet interface, as well as the round-trip heavy and verbose http/html interface.