I see all of this complaining about snaps and the "direction" Canonical takes as a purity constest. Yes, Snaps can be annoying (it isn't in my case). Yes, Canonical is far from perfect.
The Snap hate is really overblown. I'm using some to work daily and, apart from the annoying notification that appears far less than before (like once by a blue moon now on my system), they work exactly like .deb files.
Every OS suck in their own specific way. Fix the problems or move on to your new and shiny evergreen OS.
I don't think it is so much the snaps that are the problem, but that it is hard to get around them. I choose not to use snaps (or would like to choose that), but I find I am constantly fighting them. Why do I have a mount of some snap thing? Why does Firefox have to be a snap? I have enough things to know about without having to learn about snaps. sigh. So I am moving away from Ubuntu after years of being a happy user. It is not a hate thing, it is because either the choice to use snaps is not mine or because I am too stupid to know how to get rid of them.
What are you constantly fighting with snaps about? What snaps are you using that are so broken that you have to fight with it? I mean that seriously. I've never had this experience and I've used Ubuntu for ~15 years.
Not the poster you're responding to, but I am finding it very hard to use Firefox on my Ubuntu 22.04 laptop consistently ever since it started prompting me to install the snap version.
The snap wouldn't install, I couldn't figure out how to make it work, it seemed to get stuck trying to mount something from some unspecified device. I needed Firefox to keep working, but was forced to stop work to figure out what was broken. Decided to go around it.
Went to some unofficial mozilla PPA with "apt" incantations to force the apt version to take precedence. This version also mysteriously stops upgrading when the snap version becomes newer, or something. I am forced to reinstall it periodically. Possibly a Firefox packaging bug, or maybe I'm not clever enough to understand the interdependencies between apt and snap.
The whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't want to debug this snap thing that I never asked for. I feel like I am dealing with some corporation, not open source software. As soon as I get some down time, I'll say bye-bye to Ubuntu.
I see what Ubuntu is doing. I understand what they're doing as a business, and I don't like it and have every right to criticize it for what it is. Ubuntu built their brand on the promise of free and open source and then more and more cozied up to Microsoft and an "us only" way of doing things.
They are free to do that and I understand why as a business. But I'm also just as free to call it out and say I don't like it and steer people away from that sad story.
> I see all of this complaining about snaps and the "direction" Canonical takes as a purity constest. Yes, Snaps can be annoying (it isn't in my case). Yes, Canonical is far from perfect.
I don't care about "purity," I care about "annoying." If you acknowledge that some of Ubuntu's business decisions create annoyances, why dismiss people who just want their computers to work as being irrational?
The Snap hate is really overblown. I'm using some to work daily and, apart from the annoying notification that appears far less than before (like once by a blue moon now on my system), they work exactly like .deb files.
Every OS suck in their own specific way. Fix the problems or move on to your new and shiny evergreen OS.