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My F150 pollutes much less than my wife’s car simply by virtue of me working from home while she commutes every day. Taking up more space is not an issue for people who don’t live in big cities. Trucks are not more inherently dangerous than any other vehicle just because of their size. If that were the case let’s outlaw semis, delivery trucks and anything larger than a VW Golf (a car I had & loved in my youth.)

You folks need to get it out of your heads that one size fits all and everyone needs to have the same values and make the same choices as you. Everything has risks and trade offs.



> My F150 pollutes much less than my wife’s car simply by virtue of me working from home while she commutes every day.

Awesome, but that's not about the car, it's about working from home.

> Taking up more space is not an issue for people who don’t live in big cities.

But it is for those who do. And still for a lot of people outside big cities.

> Trucks are not more inherently dangerous than any other vehicle just because of their size. If that were the case let’s outlaw semis, delivery trucks and anything larger than a VW Golf (a car I had & loved in my youth.)

It's not just the size, also other factors about the design, but there's a reason why commercial driving licenses exist. They should probably be required for all trucks.

> You folks need to get it out of your heads that one size fits all and everyone needs to have the same values and make the same choices as you.

It doesn't have to fit all, but it does have to fit the environment, or at least take it into consideration.


> They should probably be required for all trucks.

In your opinion

> It doesn't have to fit all, but it does have to fit the environment, or at least take it into consideration.

What does that even mean? It's a completely arbitrary non-specific statement. Look - if people don't want large vehicles, trucks or otherwise, they'll stop buying them and manufacturers will stop making them. It's entirely your right to dislike the state of things, but I don't believe it's anyone's job or authority to force people to buy a Fiat 500 (a perfectly fine car for many) when they prefer an F-150.


The problem is that currently people are buying an F-150 when it's not fine for them. People are buying them instead of Fiat 500s because in a Fiat 500 they feel less safe in between all those giant F-150s.

Maybe you should look around a bit through the rest of the discussion here, but lots of people are pointing out that those F-150s exist because they don't have to meet the same requirements as the Fiat 500, which is ridiculous. Especially since they do require the same license. They don't have to meet the same requirements as passenger cars because by some rules, they don't count as passenger cars, but as trucks. But you can drive with with a regular license, and they're used as regular passenger cars. This discrepancy is causing problems with lots of people driving trucks far bigger than what they need.

Also, apparently, US fuel efficiency rules seem to encourage larger cars, which are less fuel efficient. Clearly a broken system.


> The problem is that currently people are buying an F-150 when it's not fine for them.

In your opinion.

> Also, apparently, US fuel efficiency rules seem to encourage larger cars, which are less fuel efficient.

I'm not sure where you get that idea from. We're generally less sensitive to fuel economy because gasoline in the US is cheap - because it's not taxed to the hilt (I'd be happy to pay higher taxes for universal healthcare, but that's another hot topic).

> This discrepancy is causing problems with lots of people driving trucks far bigger than what they need.

Again, "need" is subjective.

You're in the EU and you have your own mindset that's very different from the vast majority of American's mindset (I would know, my parents are EU immigrants.) Nothing wrong with difference of opinions...but you're not going to change people's minds here with these arguments.


> I'm not sure where you get that idea from.

From this very discussion. Read what some other people here write.


I think most people agree that "live and let live" is a good philosophy, but it's also tough to reconcile with the global tragedy of the commons wherein we destroy the earths ecosystems because we all have our eyes set on completely unsustainable standards of living.


Light-duty vehicles, including sedans, SUVs and pickup trucks, are currently responsible for 58% of U.S. transportation sector greenhouse gas emissions. Pickup trucks accounted for 14% of light-duty vehicle sales in the United States in 2020... (https://news.umich.edu/study-greater-greenhouse-gas-reductio...)

The sky isn't falling and pickup trucks aren't that big of a problem from an emissions standpoint (my F-150 gets 19mpg, within 1mpg of my wife's minivan and my neighbor's Toyota Highlander. Passenger car/truck transportation accounts for 7% of the world's emissions. People are acting like buying EVs and small cars is going to make a damn bit of difference.


I wasn't trying to imply people who have less efficient vehicles are somehow wrong or bad, just pointing out that there's some dissonance between the otherwise rational libertarian mindset (live and let live) and the big looming global problem that is unsolvable without cooperative effort. People getting upset about each others personal excesses is understandable, even if misplaced and/or unproductive.




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