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We need everyone to stand united across all borders against this kind of BS legislation. If Canada somehow lets this pass it creates a dangerous precedent for future US developments.

This affects us all.



Unfortunately there's not a whole lot we can do (speaking as a Canadian). There's a majority government in power that can basically do whatever they want.

The only hope we have is to protest this law publicly to the point where they alter it further (C-11 is already and altered version of the much more draconian C-31).


I was going to say essentially the same thing. My MP is already in the Opposition so I can't really do much here to fight this but if there was a protest I would try to participate.

It's was obvious that as soon as a majority government would come to power this bill would go through (Regardless of which party was the majority in my view)


Must be nice, I wish the NDPs would have a breakout here in Alberta. The MP from my riding is in power, and supports C-11 with statements like, "I'm not an Internet expert in this, but..."

Any efforts of writing or contacting him on this topic (or any) are gleefully ignored.

What really frustrates me is that the Conservatives were voted in thanks the rural farmers and retirees who actually got out to vote in my province. Here in my central Alberta riding in 2011, the CONs got 75% of the vote, but only 30% voted!

And thanks to this, the entire country is forced to follow our PM's indelible path. Even though the majority of people didn't actually vote for him.

Now Canadians are embarrassed on the world stage by C-11, and stuff like this:

* http://www.sorryworld.ca/

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkhRjFn5uqU


"What really frustrates me is that the Conservatives were voted in thanks the rural farmers and retirees who actually got out to vote in my province."

A big part of it was that they won the immigrant/new Canadian vote in Ontario. The values of these groups are much more in line with the Cons than the Libs. Peoples from the Eastern Bloc would never vote NDP because they've experienced similar politics already.

http://www.sorryworld.ca/ assumes that all those things listed are "good things" or that they make Canada "awesome". That' a matter of opinion, and I disagree with a lot of those things. I'm not proud that cats and dogs get better medical treatment here than humans. :(

Either way, C-11 needs to die.


See the Conservatives had to actually work to get voted in Ontario. They see being elected in Alberta as a entitlement.

Other parties don't even put in any major campaign resources out here anymore: The Liberal name has been tarnished ever since the NEP/Trudeau, and the NDP spend what little cash they have in ridings they'll actually have a chance.

I agree with you about http://www.sorryworld.ca, not every point embodies everyone's values, although you have to admit the world's perception of Canada has degraded drastically since the Conservatives have come to (true) power.

Bill C-11... the oil-sands PR mess.. and now banning trans-genders from flying[1]... The Conservatives are just cashing in their blank cheque.

[1] http://chrismilloy.ca/2012/01/transgender-people-are-complet...


Yeah it's pretty annoying when he claims to represent the majority when 61% of Canadians (who voted) voted for someone else.


The word "majority" has been (mis)used to mean "plurality" for a long time.


Right. The last "majority" was 50.04% of the vote back in 1984: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1984

What's with this new attitude of hating parliament if it's not your party with a majority?


When it became in vogue for the majority party to simply ignore those that did not vote for it? Although it's not too extreme in Canada yet.


The last "majority" was 50.04% of the vote back in 1984

Indeed, and prior to Mulroney in 1984 the only true majorities were Diefenbaker in 1958, once during each world war (both of which were distinctly atypical elections), and 1904 and earlier.


That's not true at all or even how Canada usually works. The bill is very balanced because it has been years in the making, taking consultation from many sides. It also hasn't passed the Senate yet as far as I understand. Write your MP and your Senator about it.

Here is the Parliamentary summary of this bill's history, which is very well written. It should give you greater faith in our system.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/LegislativeSummaries/41/1/...


Hey, thanks! This is a great resource that I wasn't aware of. After reading it, I highly recommend anybody interested in bill C-11 should also read through this for greater context.

I should also point out that my original comment indicating that the precursor to C-11 was C-31 was incorrect. The correct bill is C-32.




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