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> It's that the very inclusiveness of Google gives an excuse to the rest of society to dump the worst tasks and the most burden on women, with the excuse that everyone's now equal.

I agree with literally everything else that you said except this one snippet. Women still aren't taking jobs that kill them and they're still not taking jobs that give them PTSD and cause them to commit suicide.

If you think the worst tasks and the most burden are being given to women, please remember that we're talking about office work exclusively and not hard, body/life-destroying labor.

Men just aren't complaining about it.

Also workplace discrimination at Google is equally as likely to go the other way. Every tech company that I've worked for has boldly and loudly claimed that they pay women more money for the same roles as their male peers to counteract the gender pay gap. Even the hedge fund I worked at 15 years ago made it very transparent that women were paid 4-8% more in the same roles.



I wasn't saying that women's office jobs are killing them. I'm coming from a place where most women don't have white collar jobs, and are barely able to hold blue collar jobs. But the "self-improvement" mantras they're plied with that make them feel inadequate, often rely these days on narrow examples of successful women in tech. They're sold this idea that it's all equal now, because if these women can do it so can you.

A pertinent digression: I know 4 women in their late 30s who are currently enrolled in IT courses at community college. None of them are for standard IT stuff. It's like, "Info Security" (how do you do that without coding?), "Intro to Artificial Intelligence", etc. These women have kids and come from things like - nail salon, lash girl, massage therapist, woo-woo crystal shop owner. The trend is unmistakable: The lifestyle of tech work as a white collar path for women which does not actually exist is being sold as a path out of poverty. I do know one woman who did 6 months of serious bootcamp from nothing, taught herself JS/React, and has a good job at a Fortune-500. But she's a severe nerd and has the wiring for it; she can sit there and talk to me about underscoreJS versus JQuery. The others I know ...it's just an idea, like becoming a rock star or something.

That was what I meant. It doesn't negate your point that men aren't complaining, and I wasn't trying to say that the biggest burdens in tech were being given to women, just that this is dangled out there as a means to freedom and it's almost completely a rip-off.




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