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I've had the same experience in Java. Experienced engineers that are learning "new" Java even though those features came out years ago. I really think this will be the case for any language. Most people are not the HN type that are going to live and breath programming.


The ones on HN that actually work don't have the time to run after every few language feature either ;)


I prefer to be proud that I've never touched Java... for Old Reasons. But that said, it's a valuable language.

It's nice to know that other languages have similar problems :)


I'll probably get down voted, but I honestly really enjoy Java. The language, while it has some legacy verbosity, is in my opinion the perfect balance of simplicity and complexity. It has just enough language features without becoming Scala/Rust/C++ levels of complexity, while still being competitive on performance.




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