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Photoshop is subscription too now right? So they’re just wanting a cut. It’s almost a funny way to indirectly protest the move to subscription everything.


The Pantone subscription is 1.5x as expensive as Photoshop.


I'm pretty sure Pantone would have charged only a fraction of the cost if Adobe would have included a license for everyone.

Since only a fraction of Photoshop users need Pantone, they now need to pay a lot more.


I assume that's what was the case until now. Probably got too expensive to continue.


I think those needing to subscribe to the new Pantone service are more likely to be paying for the full cc suite, not the single app model. This is quite a bit less than that per month.


Yeah, what a great protest. Everyone who is selling lifetime access for a fixed price should do a similar protest and move to subscriptions as well, that would really show them!


And they also have some of the absolute garbage software surrounding it. It's bananas for a company the size of Adobe to have such bad software.


No one at the top cares about the creative tools part of the company whatsoever. They only bought Macromedia because Flash was the video player of the web. Think they all just care more about corporate PDF integrations than any of their creative tools.

All the dev team talent left or was outsourced and the only changes that seem to be able to ship consistently is web view based welcome screens.


> So they’re just wanting a cut.

A cut that is actually larger than the price of Photoshop, which is $10 / month.


Yes, but Pantone colours is more specialised software and its price shouldn’t be compared to that of software for a wide audience. If you really need Pantone colours, it’s an expense easily worth it.

I understand the outcry but TBH I think it’s a bit exaggerated. That being said I‘m also not sure whether it’s really worth it for Pantone to charge for their digital stuff. I can’t imagine it being a huge part of their revenue.


> Yes, but Pantone colours is more specialised software

Pantone has nothing to do with software.

The "software" here is a mapping of color names to hex. It's literally a text file.


When you buy a coffee for $4, you also don't care that the beans in it cost $0.01. Cost of manufacturing and customer pricing are far more decoupled than most people think.

Or, for a digital analogy, think of the good old discussion of the cost of distributing an mp3 vs the cost of creating the music (esp. back in the iTunes days when the mp3 cost $0.99).

In this case, Pantone prices the verified digital access to their colours. Almost nobody needs that, UNLESS you deal with Pantone colours in the physical world - and there they have real value.

I'm personally questioning the decision of making designers pay for the digital colours as well; I think it hurts adoption in the long run. But I also think the outcry is over the top: if you design products that require standardised colours in the manufacturing process, the cost of that tiny subscription is completely negligible. Also, because it's negligible, I can't imagine it being a huge part of Pantone's revenue, so this move might have done them more harm than good, but well...

Either way, it seems to me that there's tons of people complaining about this price, but pretty much no-one ever really worked with Pantone colours. That's why I think the internet is overreacting.


There are actually two jewels of shitty capitalism in this crown of crappiness: subscription everything meets proprietary standards.




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