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> The US government is made up of people like you

The whole is not merely the sum of the parts. And the people making up the government are nothing like me. For one, they believe government is a means to itself, while I do not.

> If you really want to enact change, you can

Citation needed.

> you choose to live beneath ithh

A one-possibility choice is not a choice. Your unstated assumption is that my personal life should be dependent on the government. I reject this. Also, there are not many places on Earth which aren't controlled by the US govt.

> If you don't like the rules, you can work to change it

And waste my life endlessly fighting others who wish to enforce their differing will on everyone, while we all perpetuate the democracy virus? That's how to become part of the problem!



Ah, yes, the democracy virus. Democracy sucks, honestly, but unfortunately the cure is much worse than the disease. :(


> Citation needed.

You're being purposefully obtuse. I'm sorry everyone doesn't agree with you. Your opinion isn't the only one. Your teenage angst driven post is sad, if only because you really believe what you are spewing.

> I reject this.

Big words for someone who clearly doesn't.

Really, if you're being honest here in this post, I can't help but think your a bigger fraud then the people who supposedly shun.


Well, I can't really respond to personal attacks with anything other than 'NUH-UH!'.

We're just coming from radically different assumptions.

I've been there, thinking my vote mattered, thinking that conservatives just needed some enlightenment (if you prefer the converse - thinking that progressives just need some experience with the real world). Thinking that change happens eventually once enough people wake up and get the message.

But then I realized that we're all just fighting ourselves over surface issues. So much passion is poured into arguing to preserve the littlest bits of freedom while the pedagogues fan the simplistic tyranny of the other "side's" masses. Meanwhile, the organizations seeking increased importance and authority keep their eyes on the prize and offer their 'solutions' to the complex fundamental meta-issues. A battle may be won from time to time, but the system's invasion of and control over your life ratchets ever forward.

I certainly don't have a concrete solution to this whole mess, but the least I can do is avoid contributing to its legitimacy.


> I've been there, thinking my vote mattered...

I wasn't referring to merely voting. I was referring to actually getting into politics and enacting change from the inside. If you just vote, you aren't enacting any change. You're signaling your belief that others are better able to handle this then you.


Then add 'thinking my friend getting into local politics would start changing things from the inside' to that list (yes, also factual with that time of my life). The point being, it's a state of thinking that we just need to democracy harder to fix the problems.

To accurately evaluate systems, one has to step back and look at their actual (emergent) behavior, not just their purported (axiomatic) behavior.


Then add 'thinking my friend getting into local politics would start changing things from the inside' to that list (yes, also factual with that time of my life). The point being, it's a state of thinking that we just need to democracy harder to fix the problems.

To accurately evaluate systems, one has to step back and look at their actual (emergent) behavior, not just their purported (axiomatic) behavior.




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