> Stripe and Moneygram have a business model that can exist outside of crypto...I won't go so far as to call them a scam company themselves.
Contradicts:
> All crypto is a scam.
As you are trying to legitimise both of them of having a 'use-case' for their crypto offerings, holdings, etc which regardless of their business models and what they do as companies, it is still all a scam.
If we agree that both Stripe and Moneygram are fully involved in the scam by having heavy involvement in crypto offerings, holdings, etc, Then yes. They are a scam as well as everything they are offering is as well. No exceptions.
No it doesn't. You're making a lot of mental leaps that I'm not able to follow. Those companies existed and were profitable BEFORE crypto. They don't NEED crypto. They're NOT CRYPTO COMPANIES.
I'm going to politely bow out of this debate, this isn't a productive use of time.
In case you forgotten, you said: 'All crypto is a scam.' [0]
That means everything including anyone who is using it, or has holdings or are insiders which includes Stripe, Moneygram, Square (now Block) and especially Signal who are still directly involved in the entire scam. All the ones I've listed either got no backlash or did have some but never removed their crypto products, which certainly still makes them fully involved in the entire crypto scam as they continue to offer it.
Trying to give exceptions to companies like Moneygram and Stripe, Square, etc is legitimising their crypto offerings as a 'use-case' which contradicts what you said with it all being a scam, since we both know what they are offering is nothing but still a scam which they are all involved in.
There is no mental leaps here, No exceptions or any use-cases with that statement. If another commenter got the point straightaway [1], it is not hard to recognise that.
Contradicts:
> All crypto is a scam.
As you are trying to legitimise both of them of having a 'use-case' for their crypto offerings, holdings, etc which regardless of their business models and what they do as companies, it is still all a scam.
If we agree that both Stripe and Moneygram are fully involved in the scam by having heavy involvement in crypto offerings, holdings, etc, Then yes. They are a scam as well as everything they are offering is as well. No exceptions.