> If you let your kids laze around and do whatever, they will ignore you when they are 15, and wish they had stricter parents that forced them to do more things growing up when they are 30.
This doesn't resonate with me at all. As a child and teenager I had freedom to effectively pursue whatever I wanted to pursue. I played guitar because I wanted to play guitar. I programmed because I wanted to program. I drew art because I wanted to draw art. I never took lessons I never wanted, nor went to boy scouts, nor pursued organized sports, and all I feel is I was lucky that I had parents that let me dodge those bullets. I also generally did not disobey or ignore my parents because I thought they were reasonable people that told me I should do reasonable things. If they told me, "Clean your room" I might think that an unpleasant activity but I couldn't really dispute that it was good to do even at the time, so I just did it.
My parents forced me do very few things, but I can't think of a major forced activity that didn't feel like wasted time that actively made my life worse. For instance, a terrible cabin trip I never wanted to go on didn't actually help me build character; it just soured me on the outdoors for years.
This doesn't resonate with me at all. As a child and teenager I had freedom to effectively pursue whatever I wanted to pursue. I played guitar because I wanted to play guitar. I programmed because I wanted to program. I drew art because I wanted to draw art. I never took lessons I never wanted, nor went to boy scouts, nor pursued organized sports, and all I feel is I was lucky that I had parents that let me dodge those bullets. I also generally did not disobey or ignore my parents because I thought they were reasonable people that told me I should do reasonable things. If they told me, "Clean your room" I might think that an unpleasant activity but I couldn't really dispute that it was good to do even at the time, so I just did it.
My parents forced me do very few things, but I can't think of a major forced activity that didn't feel like wasted time that actively made my life worse. For instance, a terrible cabin trip I never wanted to go on didn't actually help me build character; it just soured me on the outdoors for years.