I presume that you will be around to cry foul every time someone claims women are better at dealing with interpersonal relations?
It's a debatable empirical question whether men or women have any innate advantage (or are statistically more likely to have an advantage) in any given field. If the evidence points one way, does that make reality sexist?
Young men are better suited to succeed at professional football today than women. What is this if not "a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women?" Simple answer: it's an objective fact.
I find it amazingly unlikely that men and women are identically suited to every type of work. Men and women have historically, on evolutionary time scales, focussed on different types of activities.
You say "I believe it's completely unacceptable to speculate on these matter". That is labeling something as an unacceptable thought. You're saying "I don't care what reality it, my morality trumps reality." You are advocating creating categories of taboo thought crime. I suggest you either reconsider the implications of you views, or admit that this is what you are advocating.
You're saying "I don't care what reality it, my morality trumps reality."
I said I'm against unsupported speculation, not against data. We have plenty of good reasons, supported by data, to believe that men make better professional footballers.
I am not aware of any peer-reviewed study that shows men are better suited to computer programming that women. What I said was that throwing around speculation in the absence of data was prejudice and I stand by this.
I also did not make the claim that men and women are equally suited to every type of activity. However, making the leap from "there might be some activities for which men are statistically better than women" to "computer programming is once such activity", especially in the absence of evidence in the form of rigorous peer-reviewed studies supporting your position, is sexism.
That is labeling something as an unacceptable thought.
You're free to think what you want. However, I suggest that you examine your thoughts closely and study whether there is any truth to them before posting them on a public forum. I'm asking for honesty not thought-policing.
> "I find it amazingly unlikely that men and women are identically suited to every type of work. Men and women have historically, on evolutionary time scales, focussed on different types of activities."
Vague statements with no justification or data; just as subjective as someone "feeling" the other way.
> "I suggest you either reconsider the implications of you views, or admit that this is what you are advocating."
False dichotomy. The parent has many options: to do neither, to clarify the context you stripped from the quote, or perhaps offer the data this discussion is lacking.
Here is a paper to jump-start the discussion about achievement gaps in general, which talks about ethnicity and gender:
It's a debatable empirical question whether men or women have any innate advantage (or are statistically more likely to have an advantage) in any given field. If the evidence points one way, does that make reality sexist?
Young men are better suited to succeed at professional football today than women. What is this if not "a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women?" Simple answer: it's an objective fact.
I find it amazingly unlikely that men and women are identically suited to every type of work. Men and women have historically, on evolutionary time scales, focussed on different types of activities.
You say "I believe it's completely unacceptable to speculate on these matter". That is labeling something as an unacceptable thought. You're saying "I don't care what reality it, my morality trumps reality." You are advocating creating categories of taboo thought crime. I suggest you either reconsider the implications of you views, or admit that this is what you are advocating.