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It doesn’t matter if you work on KDE or Gnome when the boot loader doesn’t work, when the display driver doesn’t work, and mainline Linux doesn’t run on the device. Everyone needs these things to work, but no one is working on them


It's quite the paradox that people are off doing weird stuff but they have no bootloader. The pmOS page refers to U-Boot like it exists and people seem to be working on the SoC and eink display at the rate they can.

Most other devices are consumer released so you get an old kernel that gets everyone at the top of the stack going right away, but then blocks mainlining since no one can correctly claim authorship of the implementation for the process of porting and fixing it.


> Everyone needs these things to work, but no one is working on them

A few people do seem to be working on these critical things, just not together towards any common goal. The way GP puts it, the Pine64 communities are ideologically opposed to reducing development friction because that would mean people could start thinking about doing useful things to do with these devices. Who would want that? The suggestion that the status quo is working out positively is completely baffling to me.


This has only been out for a few weeks. What makes you think the people who actually know how to do anything are not working together, as opposed to working with each other via email and other private channels that we don't know about?

I suppose the *BSD and linux communities working on this might not work together much, but they are working to very different things so there isn't much they can do together. (even then I expect that they are in contact about "have you figured out X, I can't get it to work" "oh, I got that, the docs say 0x35 which doesn't work but I tried 0x36 and that seems to be everything I need" )

If you are not part of those communities, then it will be tricky to get in. However I trust people who know what they are doing in those communities are working on it. They have been in the past, it just takes them a few months.


> via email and other private channels that we don't know about

That would be 0/3 on the slogan of "Open. Friendly. Community driven."

All of your replies have been complete non-sequiturs to my comments.




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