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> What I'm saying is that for the Internet to exist you need people prepared to get their hands dirty (sometimes quite literally) and build low level infrastructure.

I think no one is contesting this.

> That problem is well solved with Web2.

Maybe this is the major disagreement? Many are dissatisfied with Web 2 because it has concentrated the web, for the vast majority of people, in the hands of 2-5 platforms owned by major corporations (Facebook and all its apps, Google and YouTube, Microsoft's Office 365).

The promise of web 3 is a decentralized Web - same capabilities, but provided by distributed apps run and financed by blockchain techs. This is the promise that Moxie likes, but that hasn't matched his actual experience with the actual technologies being implemented - which seem to resemble Web 1 / Web 2 much more than the promise of Web 3.



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