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>Why the comparison of orange to apples? (no pun intended)

They are almost the same internally, similar processors, similar batteries, similar GPU/memory, PCH, etc.

>My retina MacBook pro overheated and needed a paste replacement and fan cleaning

This should be rather trivial job - likely 25-30mins if you have the pentalobe screwdriver.



I have replaced the thermal paste on a 2016 MBP before and that was far from trivial. It took close to 2 hours and everything felt very stuck. It was overall a bad experience.

Even though Thinkpads like the old xx20 and xx30 series require more parts to come off, they are easier and faster to replace the thermal paste on. Nothing feels as awfully stuck, overengineered and way too small as on the Macbook. Newer business Notebooks from Lelnovo and Dell are even better with that.


I’ve opened a Macbook. It would be irresponsible to recommend someone attempt to do this unless they somewhat experienced. There is a reason why iFixit gives most newer Macbook Pros a 1/10 repairability, and it is not an anti-Apple conspiracy; they’re tricky devices.


Okay what's the worst to happen while opening, if one is moderately cautious and don't rip off the flex cables?

I am in no way defending Apple's policies that are openly hostile to repair and maintenance, yet I'd expect most people to be able to open a Mac, if they read a guide/watch a video and they have the correct tools.

I do maintain/install/repair most of stuff home - the worst offenders are the ones that consider epoxy a viable engineering tool for fastening. Macs at least don't do that... yet. Also they don't contain built-in mechanical points of failure (printers are notoriously bad when it comes to weak springs and certain plastic gears; I don't consider having too short flex cable 'mechanical')


> if you have the pentalobe screwdriver

This is already a problem - what's the reason they couldn't use a standard screw beyond making it intentionally more difficult to repair?

Screws are still relatively tame and easy to work around but I'm sure if they could come up with some smart, DRM-powered screw that only an official, Apple screwdriver could open (after an online check) they'd do it.


The screws are the epitome of Apple attempts to circumvent repair/maintenance of their product. There is zero reason to 'invent' them aside being a barrier for a normal human to open the thing. If they wanted decent screws that don't cam out - use the torx instead. (Phillips are overall bad screws, designed to prevent overtorque).

I'd guess the 1st pentalobe screwdrivers are machined initially.




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