> Notice how many companies have dedicated DevOps roles in their ranks whereas everyone and their mother who is a practitioner has been saying since the very beginning that that's now how it should be.
I dunno who says that but they're dead wrong. I'm working as a dev somewhere with a dedicated DevOps finally after years of being dev + ops (+dba +sysadmim +qa) and I can't tell you how much of a relief it is to have other people shoulder that stuff so I don't have to think about it.
I understand your point that devs who have a higher level understanding of systems and deploy pipelines and such are probably able to write good systems themselves, but when it comes to the humans doing the work? I absolutely love having it separated.
I dunno who says that but they're dead wrong. I'm working as a dev somewhere with a dedicated DevOps finally after years of being dev + ops (+dba +sysadmim +qa) and I can't tell you how much of a relief it is to have other people shoulder that stuff so I don't have to think about it.
I understand your point that devs who have a higher level understanding of systems and deploy pipelines and such are probably able to write good systems themselves, but when it comes to the humans doing the work? I absolutely love having it separated.