And Im sure it wont be explicitly stated, but simply rolled up under some paragraph as a blanket statement, something to the effect of:
"We track all of your activities and provide third parties the ability to do so as well - to provide a better user experience - and we may or may not sell or distribute the collected data at our own discretion and continued use of this site grants us permission in perpetuity. Further, should you decide to sue us, you agree to binding arbitration at a venue chosen by us, conducted by an arbiter of our choosing, in which case you promise to lose regardless of outcome. If you disagree, please leave the site now but just know, by being here and reading this, you have already granted us this power and we've mostly already collected what we needed from you. Thank you. Stop wasting our bandwidth now. Fuck off!"
That's not a sinister "land grab" by Google, that's a fundamental aspect of the web, predating the advent of JavaScript. You reveal your identity quite thoroughly to the individual hosting services.
And it's difficult to imagine legislating that away, as it's sort of fundamental to all network computing.
I'm commenting on HN. I've been developing for the web for 24 years. I don't know how and when my data is collected or shared most of the time.
The idea that FB and Google are openly making a trade with users is ludicrous. I'm horrified that you either sincerely believe that there's a fair negotiation happening or that you don't care (given your employment history).
I'm here, and struggle to follow many of the threads on HN. As a father, I don't really see how I can effectively prepare my kids for a surveillance internet.
I didn't, but assume this is the case with everything. I mostly care about giving my data away for free (cut me in please), but none of my non-HN commenting roommates knew. Is their privacy less important than mine?
Of course.
> Recaptcha is simply part of this negotiation.
It is only a negotiation if I know it is there.