Yeah, that always passed me off. I had little trouble writing cross browser code, but to be helpful jQuery would add code especially for IE that always got in the way when debugging cross browser compatibility problems.
I realize you're just being argumentative, but whatever. As a programmer you should definitely be avoiding micro improvements until you absolutely need them. Premature optimization is the root of all evil. No sense in wasting development time with something that is currently not a problem.
I was not being just argumentative and I absolutely disagree about product improvement. Product improvement is refinement which is absolutely not premature optimization. I honestly believe you are fishing for excuses to qualify mediocrity whether for laziness or fear of the code.
This is exactly it summarised. It's more frustration at the extra verbosity I had to put in to do something I'd become so accustomed to doing in a line or two.
That was simplified code to create just one element and add it to the DOM.
Once you write it not once, but twice, or five times, you will either switch to a lib/framework, or to jQuery, or will write your own wrapper not that different from jQuery.
Not for something so simple. It's trivial to abstract small, oft-repeated actions like that to their own function. As I do, regularly. And then I can give it a readable name, like `createElement` or `insertElement` with an interface like:
Browsers are an interesting place since the language we compile to there is generally human readable when compared to assembly lang/machine code but that "more explicit" is something that we've come to reject in general development so I'm curious why it's persisted in the browser world. People[1] don't reject C/C++ because they're putting two much distance between you and the bare metal assembly statements, instead the tradeoff of readability and expressiveness is accepted as correct code is always better than fast code - so why in the browser do we still demand the bare metal option?
[1] Okay, there are some people, they're rare and generally regarded as weird.
Is more human readable to me than the jQuery abstraction (that pulls in piles of other potentially unused tooling) than:
$(document).append("div").text("Hello, world");
It's more verbose, sure. But like I said in another comment, if I have to repeat the methods more than twice I'd probably just wrap the couple of lines into a function, like:
function createTextElement(type: string, text: string): void {
const element = document.createElement(type);
element.textContent = text;
document.appendChild(element);
}
And anywhere that's called it's quite clear what is being done
createTextElement("div", "Hello world");
This seems to be preferred when writing C as well, no? Rather than abstracting common methods to more opaque symbols?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the English, descriptive version and I prefer working with code formatted the same way. The language (JS) has plenty of quirks as it is.
Comparing C/Assembly I don't think is a 1:1 fair comparison, though. Unless you're including TypeScript—which is how I tend to write JS anyway (whenever possible).
> if I have to repeat the methods more than twice I'd probably just wrap the couple of lines into a function, like:
I wrote in a sibling comment:
Once you write it not once, but twice, or five times, you will either switch to a lib/framework, or to jQuery, or will write your own wrapper not that different from jQuery.