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May I ask you to compare your comment with this quote from my comment: “And we haven’t yet built the kind of society that does”.

Would you agree that there are indications that you did read too fast? – The necessity of world-building and world-shaping is the core of what I was attempting to convey.

So we actually agree ;)



You have hope for change in this regard. I don’t. I’m not just saying that we don’t live in that society, but that we never will. People don’t like those who hold to their principles over their fellows and people aren’t changing.


Sincere thanks for an excellent reply. It’s better than I deserve for how snarky and pseudo-clever my reply was.

I don’t always have hope. I think I’ll go for “or die trying”. Build that world or die trying.

Those people won’t change. 100% agree. The others can learn and adapt and curb risks and manage and mitigate and unify. Communicate.

It’s possible to build small altruistic groups. I think I’m willing to expend effort on increasing the size limits.




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