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battery efficiency, drivetrain efficiency, making cars cheaper, updating software live in the field reliably. 0 to 60 speed, battery lifetime without degredation, almost worldwide charging network, supercharging without degredation, billions of miles to train your self-driving. advanced ui. summon mode.

so basically there's no value there.

don't forget about ~30% more efficient now than the vaunted e-tron and even more efficient than the terrible i-pace.



I agree that Tesla's plan to put superchargers everywhere is good business, it will lock a number of customers into their ecosystem who are okay with that. Apple would be proud :). But there are quite a lot of Level 2 chargers out in the wild that everyone else can use, and that's where I pin my homes and dreams -- the last thing I want is every manufacturer building their own competing infrastructure ecosystem. Imagine having to shop for gasoline based on what brand car you own.

Porsche has superior charging. Tesla batteries do degrade, we know this for fact. The E-tron may be using a larger battery with a built-in reserve to mitigate degradation and improve charging time and Audi customers are less price sensitive than Model 3 customers. 0-60 speed is just a choice, electric motor technology is not really cutting edge.

I wish Tesla luck and I hope they're strong in a couple years -- the Model Y does look promising. But the hype may do them more harm than good in the long run.


The tesla batteries don't degrade very much, mine has less than 5 miles after 45k miles, but its hard to say exactly what max charge is, it varies a bit. There are even people with multi-100k miles driven so there's lots of info out there. Compare tesla to the bad experiences with leafs. I want porsche to succeed! We need electric cars to succeed.

There are a few high power chargers around. But there's no porsche ev yet. The e-tron came out with a thud, inadequate range. If they are really using the same technology base as the e-tron they are going to disappoint people, especially if people drive aggressively they won't get even 200 miles.


Tesla has batteries that don’t degrade?

My Jeep Grand Cherokee has OTA updates including ones that can be done while driving. The updates do not cause my car to be bricked either or cause the car to not be able to drive.




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