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11 points by jbhelms on Oct 14, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments
There are several products like Chargify, but now Google checkout is about to start recurring payments and subscription billing. It is currently in Beta, but I am integrating it into one of my sites, and it seems nice. Google is well trusted by people, so it may be better than a company like Chargify that most people probably haven't hear of. it also allows for item purchases at the same time as a subscription. So a customer can order Widget 1, and a 1 year support subscription for Widget 1.


My only hesitation with going to Google with this is how notoriously difficult it can be to reach a real support person if you have a problem. There are all sorts of horror stories on the internet of people who had their accounts frozen or other issues and were unable to find any way to contact a human being. I dare you to try and find a contact phone number for support, unless its changed recently you won't be able to. IMO this isn't acceptable for someone who's handling my hard-earned money. If I have a problem I should be able to call them up and talk to a support person about it.


Agreed 100%. I spend a lot of time on the Google Help Forums, and I feel terrible for the people who need immediate access to something stored in Google, and have no way of getting help.

Imagine a customer of your company experiencing a billing problem that can only be solved by Google. Their lack of responsiveness could be interpreted as YOU being unresponsive. Until Google offers you dedicated support, I would be wary of selecting them.

Disclaimer: I work for a recurring billing provider today, but I've had a lot of experience dealing with different billing solutions.


I wonder if they could pull off a paid support subscription. You pay like $100 a year or something and get live phone or chat support.


Not to hijack the thread but I also ran across http://www.opengateway.net/ , an installable (as opposed to SaaS) recurring billing solution. Was wondering if anyone had tried it or had feedback.


I asked the same question on both of the chargify threads but was unfortunately only met with deafening silence...

Edit: I started an "Ask HN" on this => http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1792799


Google is definitely a trusted source, however, they're a monster in size and that sometimes leads to the inability to contact them should something come up.

I had a pretty severe Gmail problem once and I remember trying to contact someone or report the issue, a nearly impossible task. All I found were static help documents. Of course, that was ~4 years ago. And their support for Google Checkout may be handled entirely different from that of Gmail, but it's still something to consider.

Then again, I got burned by the Chargify pricing hike recently, so I can't really advocate to go with the smaller "Chargify-ish" companies, either.


You could also try PayPal's website payments standard which offers similar recurring payment functionality and identical transaction pricing. Customer's aren't required to have a PayPal account to purchase through it either.

Both of these services only offer checkout capabilities. They don't offer product/subscription management or other advanced features like dunning which gateway wrapper services like Chargify, Recurly, Spreedly and ChettarGetter offer.


If you want to not worry, can spend a week cooking it up and testing it, using a service like braintree (or the like, I have enjoyed only braintree), is the only way to go.


Google checkout is about to start recurring payments and subscription billing

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