People are used to how their phones work, it's a form of lock-in. I can't figure out how a Mac works, never mind an iPhone. I just get annoyed in the first 10 seconds and give up. If iPhone could be made to work more like Android, I'd switch to the superior Apple privacy story. As it stands I really hate using Apple UIs.
Atleast give some constructive complaints, hating the UI sounds like a personal rant and not a good one as well when the whole world copies Apple's UI.
You open xCode, nothing appears, it just changed top menu.
You click on any other app in the meantime, and you need to go back to dock to do same action that opened it in first place.
You try to maximize window? For some reason it will move to other desktop.
You try to drag a window to the side, like in every other OS, to have it on half on screen? Nooo, users prefer long clicking on little maximize icon.
(and there's a ton of other hidden actions like this, looks like new users should just right click every control possible to discover them)
Mouse support is completely broken, looks like acceleration is optimized for touchpad, and you cannot fix it in settings.
And worst of all, I have to deal with this 'perfect UX' because, no you won't be able to develop an iPhone app on your Linux PC.
Should I tell my clients that I won't do iOS version of their app and that I don't care that their frontend will not have workarounds for bug ridden Safari?
I didn't have to buy Microsoft hardware to support Edge and Windows Phone.
I didn't have to buy Google hardware to support Android.
I had to buy Apple hardware to support iOS and Safari.
So no, I'm not free to not have a mac standing next to my real computer.
hating on iPhone? It's explaining why both parent comments don't share the same opinion. Everything else I said was very explicitly subjective, am I not allowed to express that I don't like using something?
> whole world copies Apple's UI
That is absolutely false, outside of the Apple marketing machine. Everyone copied Xerox and UI subsequently evolved byways of everybody copying everyone else in one way or another. I've also yet to see an integrated menu on Windows or Linux (although I am sure there exists some exotic window manager that does it) - so there's one concept that hasn't been copied and is entirely invented. There's also the Office ribbon. The modern iteration of flat UIs was born of the Metro interface language, a Microsoft invention - this now features strongly on both macOS and iOS.
This is also not true, Microsoft made it pervasive: between 1996 and 2017 MacOS has only ever peaked at roughly 10-15% market share. It is during this period that the market cap of computer users increased from millions (which can hardly be called "popular") to billions.
This is also shifting the goal posts. Your original comment had absolutely nothing to do with "who made UI popular."
> Why is every mobile UI a copy of the first Iphone.
Windows Mobile was definitely not a copy of the first iPhone.[1] I already pointed out that it was, in fact, Apple who took inspiration from Metro - which was the first iteration of the modern flat UI.
No they didn't.
What they did is show the world how to create a marketing campaign.
They took it to the point when people thought that Apple invented 3g when iPhone 3g went out, when it was on market for almost 10 years, and it was an update to what everyone else had already.
iPhone was way behind Symbian and Windows mobile at date of launch.
It didn't even have multitasking...
Also, use some arguments instead of switching topic every reply.
You accuse me of switching topic and then go and talk about 3g, how about practice what you preach?
Thank you for making my point I, you can do all the marketing you want but in the end you cannot sell a shitty product which Symbian and Windows Mobile learnt the hard way.
Apple succeeded because the user experience worked.
You have been so blinded by your hate for Apple that you cannot even accept that all the companies which you mentioned (you forgot to mention Blackberry) could not adapt to a new revolutionary interface. They were so stuck in the past that they refused to move.
> There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locked
Hahah that is the Apple way, you have to live in the walled garden, normal people like that. Of Course you won't understand this point.
I think I finally understood why you dont get it, you are looking at this from your selfish perspective, you are not thinking from the average consumer's perspective. Once you see that you will understand why you are wrong.
Let me know if you dont understand I will help you out.
You are wrong again, how many times have you been wrong. I do have top tier Android phone as well.
What did you say about personal attacks?
Did you just ran out of arguments?
I showed you that there was nothing revolutionary in first iPhone interface. It was copied from others. I even showed you what they ripped off. Yet you blindly blabber about how they invented it.
Your fanboy mind can't comprehend that, maybe cause you did not see background of iPhone evolution.
I understand that people will not buy best performing phone, rather one that is trendy.
And I stated once and again, apple is 99% marketing.
They can make phone trendy.
Just admit it already. You have no arguments besides marketing sells phones.
Whopping 12% of phones.
If their marketing didn't manage to make it a status symbol a while ago, nobody would bother with such minority.
Go on, attack me again, or repeat your revolutionary ripped off user experience again ;)
I must be the first Apple fanboy who actively uses Windows and Android.
I guess we will agree to disagree, you want to support dinosaurs with revolutionary interface like using a stylus and physical keyboards on a mobile while I don't.
This was a fun conversation but I am not going to reply anymore to a troll :)
Have you given macOS a serious chance? When I first tried it out, almost 10 years ago, I HATED it. But eventually I was convinced by my brother to give it a genuine chance for a week. Since then, I haven't gone back. Whenever I setup a linux PC, the first thing I do is fix the hotkeys to match macOS.
If you have used Windows since Win95, CTRL+Left/Right is most-likely muscle memory. This hotkey also works in most Linux programs, including Vim and the terminal. It's practically as universal as ALT+F4. macOS does its own special thing. This is by and far the largest issue I have with macOS. It might sound silly, but keep in mind that I get thrown to a different desktop multiple times a minute, completely losing mental context each time, because I am using something that has the same effect everywhere else.
Assuming I could change the hotkeys to something less inane, I still wouldn't go near the ecosystem. I flat out refuse to spend $1700 on these specs[1] (i5 with Intel graphics), when I can spend $1899 on one of these[2] (i7 with GTX1060).
The iPhone is a different story and I might try it.
