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I was considering these guys the other day until I saw their pricing page: https://fly.io/pricing/

(There's not a single price on there, why even create the page?)


There's a link to what appears to be the actual pricing page https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/

There's also a link to the pricing calculator https://fly.io/calculator


Is that calculator hourly or monthly?


It's right there: "Monthly Cost"


Literally says "Monthly Costs" in the green panel on the right that calculates the total.


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LOL. If you're not charging us for it, is there any other psychoanalysis you might be willing to provide?

Alternatively: sometimes, a weirdly-positioned pricing page is just a weirdly-positioned pricing page.


Psychoanalysis?

This is a technology review and discussion website. It's poor design to put a link to a pricing page and not list any prices.

You're literally the only GPU provider that does that.

I was trying to give you my perspective as a consumer since I know you frequent these forums but I apologize if I have offended you in some way.


You didn’t present a consumer perspective, you offered your hot take on why the company has set up the site in the way they did.


OMG, that's hilarious. I use them, and I know what my prices are, but I'd never noticed that the page called pricing doesn't actually have any.


We've always had public pricing; you can't do a metered cloud provider without a rate sheet. But it's been part of our product documentation, rather than the front page of the website, until recently; there's a whole saga behind it, which gets into whether we offer "plans" or not, how support works, all that jazz, all of which kept us from putting together a marketing pricing page.


Yeah, I’m not trying to say you didn’t. After all, I wouldn’t have signed up just to find out the price. I just never noticed it wasn’t actually on the pricing page.


I'm overexplainey, because (looks around at whole thread). These aren't fun!

Anyways we've been dunking on ourselves for not having a proper pricing page longer than anyone else could have. :)


The prices are just one click deeper. Hardly a nefarious dark pattern.


Been downloading literally whatever I feel like in Canada here for the past few decades with nothing more than an email forwarded to me from my ISP with some "threats" from the original copyright owners :P


Numbers stations aren't going anywhere soon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station


Obviously if you walked at a snails pace, even the lightest rain would get you soaked.


While I was initially impressed with it's context window, I got so sick of fighting with Claude about what it was allowed to answer I quit my subscription after 3 months.

Their whole policing AI models stance is commendable but ultimately renders their tools useless.

It actually started arguing with me about whether it was allowed to help implement a github repository's code as it might be copywritten... it was MIT licensed open source from Google :/


I just include text that I own the device in question and that I have a legal team watching my every move. It's stupid, I agree, but not insurmountable. I had less refusals with Claude 3 Opus.


We shouldn't be listening to the NIST for any sort of Cryptographic advice. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Standard...


So we should continue using ECB and RSA < 2048?


Not if you want to get FedRAMP designation at any point.


Ah, but that's a beauty of it. If you encrypt with ECB you can't be decrypted by a federally compliant organization!


Unfortunately, a federally compliant organization could still decrypt it because ECB decryption is still allowed for legacy use.


This looks like spooks did spook stuff, got caught, and NIST fixed it? Is there evidence NIST colluded or is the NSA just good at its job?


> complex questions of what "rightful owner" after hundreds or thousands of years even means

I think that's besides the point.

To me this means a goodhearted effort to right past wrongs.


Scary stuff... Condolences :/ Try TOR?


No need, just a notice to others that would maybe prefer not to support such 'hosting' services. It was not trademark/copyright related I can say.


Or you could question the reasoning of your Ministry of Interior. Those archiving sites are vital for the internet to have some kind of "memory".

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today


Thats not what it's bocking it for apperantly. Obviously I wouldn't have a problem with simply archiving.

https://imgur.com/a/RSQIKP2



A tax would make it even more dystopian. Imagine the rich paying for the right to murder people on the road.


I don't care about your ideology. Tax works as a solution to deter behavior you don't want and raise revenue which can be spent on good things that make society function.


Nah there are other solutions to life’s problems than just taxes. HN loves taxing stuff. Don’t know why this site is stuck in single channel thinking.


How is that any different than the current situation? It will just cost more.


1) always has been 2) ask them, they’ll tell you the rational explanation that from their perspective it’s irresponsible to not be the heaviest car on the road


Their stock valuation and chart is looking strong over the past decade. Is Japan playing with their currency valuation that much that it's making failing companies look like rockstars on the charts?


Or Hacker News sentiment isn't representative, and the business has performed well.


I'm sure the Sony patent portfolio has been something they've leaned on for some time, but even that has to start running out at some point. They do make a lot of the camera sensors that everyone else uses[0], and they do excel at that. They used to lead in video monitors, but I think even that has slipped below some of the Korean manufactures like LG or Samsung. Do they still make other chips? I'm not sure what all their portfolio contains, but it is definitely thicker than my knee jerk reaction of them would joke. I thought Sony might have had a hand in the blue LED, but I don't see their name any where in the wiki of Shuji Nakamura[1].

[0] https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/sony-aims-for-60-sha...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuji_Nakamura


The Yen is the lowest it's been in a long time so probably not.


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