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Didn't they say Vagrant got replaced by otto?


Otto replaces Vagrant for the common use case: if you're just a person who wants to run a personal dev server, they'd like you to move onto Otto.

However, Otto is just a layer on top of Vagrant that automates a lot of the decisions that a dev would usually make. Vagrant is still relevant for other use cases, so they'll continue to develop it as a standalone product, too.


The biggest source of this confusion is the header of Otto's site - https://ottoproject.io/ - where it says "Meet the successor to Vagrant"


Not really; official statement from https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/otto.html:

> Vagrant is a mature, healthy project that is continuing to grow every day. We are committed to supporting Vagrant for the foreseeable future and will continue to release new versions. Otto is our vision for the next generation and will be developed alongside Vagrant.


> the successor to Vagrant https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/otto.html

So it does read like it was replaced but now we have some clarification. Vagrant will still be developed alongside of Otto.


Otto uses vagrant (as well as other hashicorp software) under the hood.


Depends who deep it can go.


All the reasoning is BS. They just want to cut the middleman and keep all the earning which is totally fine but don't insult our intelligence and come up with ridiculous reasoning.


Noted. We will implement it on the upcoming update.


Because the social networks won't give them enough APIs. They are rivals.


Great work!


That depends on your current hourly rate. What is it?


That's a good question to ask upfront, I agree, but only if you're looking for financial gains.

Just wanted to add that a lot more things come into play when there is a discussion of drop college x steady job x freelance.


Yeah i agree, that's why i'm so torn and can't make up my mind


I usually get paid per project. A landing page for 2500$ a normal static website 3000$ for 5 pages and 200$ more for each page. But if i'm working on a Frontend/Backend gig i charge 150$ per hour


Where have you gotten work from while still in school? Do you do all your work remote? Do you have a portfolio available to show publicly here so I can see what kind of skill level I need to get work that pays that well?

Im graduating a (Canadian) College web dev course at the end of next semester and the only work I have managed to get was some WordPress stuff that ended up being less than 15$ an hour. I am actively looking to find front/backend work that pays halfway decent right now.


Great. Looking from a financial perspective, I'd stick w/ freelance given this rate if I were you.


Someone somewhere is.


10x slower.


I can't talk for others but according to my experience I found that getting high quality Python/Django developers is much easier than PHP. Someone would expect the situation to be the other way around due to the larger PHP pool, but it's not.


Funny you say that because I built the current site in Django. This is definitely my fear!


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