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Dude not paying rent is not the end of the world. Go where you can reduce your expenses to as low as possible - parents house, good friends, whatever. Get unemployment or whatever gov assistance you can get.

Clearly you are doing something wrong in tech, so hedge your bet and get a simple job at Starbucks or something like that for now. Use that to save up some cash so you have some legs to stand on. Early morning and night grind on development and leetcode and get a solid entry job.

Btw you should be getting student loan forgiveness by now, 11 years out of college.

All of what I said above is 100% doable but you have to be stoic and "just do it"... you can't cry and make excuses and say crazy stuff. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and just give it your best shot, you're not gonna fail if you do.


Read this OP. Taking the decision to do something and actually committing to it is the hardest part.


I bet every company will go to a hybrid style setup. Thus requiring less physical space... so corporate RE still down. WFH companies like what? There's really no secret sauce in any of them, doubt their values go up that much.


I don't get why the Trumpers hate Obama so much... he's always come across as well thought out and pragmatic.


There's a fraction of the media that repeats unsubstantiated claims enough that their viewers believe them to be true. Examples: Climate change is a hoax, or Obama is a muslim from an African country.

I've lost count of the number of people who I met who blatantly make the above statements as if they are matter-of-fact... Because they watch the media that perpetuates these myths, every single day.

So, the vitriol towards Obama comes from a fraction of the media that will stop at nothing to destroy him.

(And, before someone goes and says that "the liberal media does it too," remember that the rest of American media does not openly contradict established facts to forward a political agenda.)


Neither of those attributes is relevant to those who would support a demagogue.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/opinion/how-to-protect-am...


Cause that's how tribalism works.


I'm not a trump fan by any means but obama was just another 8 years of bush. he didn't do much to end the wars, wall street got a raise especially those at the very top, no one was held accountable for the financial crisis, he gave more and more jobs away to china, obamacare gave huge profits to the insurance industry (which is why you didn't see republicans repeal it even when controlling the senate and house), he leapt at the chance to help tech companies who didn't need it, he limited civil liberties, and so on. It's so frustrating to see liberals bend over backwards to defend him.


why all the downvoters? I just listed a bunch of totally reasonable objections to his time in office. Are people that attached to political figures? I don't understand. I feel like hackernews is a good place to criticize all politicians, including those you like. I voted for him if you are curious lol


I have come to the conclusion that presidents all follow the same playbook, more or less. Once they get into office it's house of cards, the advisors giving the same advice, same office machinations. I imagine there is a lot of resistance for wavering from the norm.

Obama had election promises to get out of conflicts, close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Campaign promises reneged and the continuance of Bush era executive power overriding the course of legislation.

Compared to Trump Obama looks good, but in reality he wasn't really anything special apart from his eloquence and kind demeanor which I am sure Republicans dismissed as Democrats dismiss the qualities of Rep. Presidents. It's all just the same shit from different sides, it's kind of laughable really.


Obama also promised to close Guantanamo immediately after his inauguration. He was still at the Capital.

Seeing him fail to deliver on that promise changed my opinion of him completely.


You're not wrong, but none of those things are why Trumpers hate him. It's racism, pure and simple.


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> I'm sure it has nothing to do with Obama's anti-semitism displayed in so many ways including paying Iran to continue building a nuclear weapon

LMAO this is such a comical line. Let me guess, criticizing zionism is also anti semetic?


I do not hate Obama - but his administration's abysmal record in multiple fronts drove me to Trump.

Where were the Perp walks? He got chummy with Wall Street and cashed out after his "retirement". He over saw Putin making territorial expansions and was really ineffective containing Russia and China. etc.

Color me Furious when a dude with 7 million dollar mansion in DC and Martha's Vineyard complains about not giving up on America.


So you didn’t like that Obama was chummy with Wall Street, and then voted for a billionaire?


Trump being billionaire before joining Politics is not a bad thing in my book. I am worried about the centi-millionaires whose only profession is Politics like the Clintons, Pelosi, Mitch etc. Of course, Obamas are on that road too.


Lol, so if earning millions as a politician is so reprehensible in your eyes, how do you feel about the fact that Trump has spent taxpayer money on his own resorts? Last I checked, his golf tab has run into the hundreds of millions, over a million just in hotel rooms for secret service agents. Trump is easily the worst political grifter since Al Gore.


Trump, by way of his family, was just shy of being a billionaire before joining the business world. Family money is a powerful thing for starting in business, and it can help pull up your bootstraps when you go bankrupt (6 times).

EDIT: Two minor corrections prompted by downvoters. 6 bankruptcies instead of 7, and his family wealth in 1980 was, inflation adjusted, a bit shy of a billion (~$900 million). My bad.


Buddy, if you think the results of the power structures of those two groups of people are different, you got another thing comin'. Do you consider it bad that Trump's wealth was bolstered by hundreds of millions in tax abatements from that same politician class?

I'm not arguing that it wouldnt be great if our politicians would all go back to their farms in recess, but I am saying that in today's world and with our system, that it's impossible.


Buddy, I understand better than you think I do. Trump played the game no doubt, but I am more interested those who call themselves People's representatives not playing the games..


I really hope you regret that decision. Obama might have been ineffective against Russia and China, but Trump has been worse in every possible way. With China, his "hardline" stance is all rhetorical; it hasn't hurt China at all, and has hurt America substantially. And with Russia, Trump has been a massive enabler. Not only did his campaign seek out foreign election interference from Russia, but when caught, went through substantial efforts to pin the blame on Ukraine. And he is constantly groveling on behalf of Putin, begging to invite him into the G7, even doing so after knowing that Russia was putting bounties on American soldiers' heads. And don't stop there, Trump is hands down the most corrupt executive officer in the history of the US...dozens of personally appointed staff ended up with criminal convictions, so much that he had to appoint a new Attorney General just to get the convictions to stop.

There is no world in which any criticism of Obama, or any other politician, Democrat or Republican, should lead someone to support Trump. I too did not like Obama and refused to vote for him for his second term, but I would vote for a flaming turd in a paper bag on my doorstep over Trump or anyone that supports him.


It's worth considering what we get out of "confronting" these nations.

Surely we should protect our interests, but are Ukraine or the South China Sea more vital to us than they are to Russia and China? What's actually in it for us besides hegemony for its own sake?

Maybe fixing up some of our glaring domestic problems would be more effective in the long run.


I do not regret my decision on Trump probably I would better judge it 10 years from now than currently. Probably I will regret just like I regretted my Obama support.

Please do not regurgitate MSNBC talking points like Bountygate, Suckergate.. I am aware of these and do not have trust in anonymous sources.


Those aren't talking points, and they certainly don't belong to MSNBC. The facts have been corroborated by multiple sources, published by hundreds of media outlets, many of which are international and apolitical towards the US. And they likely wouldn't have been anonymous sources if your chaos-mongering sociopath president didn't have a long history of attacking whistleblowers. Deflecting and disregarding substantial and material evidence because the person who exposed it wanted to not be attacked is pretty fucking pathetic.


> Color me Furious when a dude with 7 million dollar mansion in DC and Martha's Vineyard complains about not giving up on America.

And you went to a trust fund narcissist who has never demonstrated any care for anyone but himself, I would have voted for almost anyone other than Donald Trump.

If the vast majority of the country is OK being indentured to the 1%, there is very little anyone can do to fix things.


Your Messiah had power for 8 years, his tonto will have for 4 years let us see your UTOPIA. We know what the snapshot is at 2016.

I am sure, you will be on streets for unionizing Amazon workforce.. happy to join you when you start that protest.


You insist that progress towards a better society is too slow so you vote for the guy with regressive policies? The only thing that can prevent actual (slow) progress over time?


LOL at mentioning all those things as a factor that "drove" you to Trump. No, you drove yourself to Trump.

Trump is literally worse in every point you listed.


Genuine question. After a Trump term, are you still supporting him? Also, do you see his refusal to concede as legit?


So, you think Obama was a swindler and you voted for Trump? I wouldn't trust your background checking abilities...

But I get it, you made a choice and you tried to find a justification for that choice. I saw this speech and Q&A with Yanis Varoufakis the other day, and at one point he reiterated the "Fuck you, establishment!" motivations of Trump and Brexit-voters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGeevtdp1WQ&feature=youtu.be... .

Voting for Hillary would have meant a continuation of Obama, out of anger or desperation of how shitty their lives had been, many in the electorate thought "Let's just vote for change, it might be shit, or it might be good, at least we know it'll be change.". And IMO Trump voters probably found justification after they made up their minds to vote for him, fooling themselves "He's not shit!" and clutching to empty hopes that Trump will fulfill his car salesman promises...


20 minutes, -2 points. What's wrong with what I wrote? Or did I forget yet again that HN is probably full of "libertarians" and should I wonder why I even come back and try to contribute here...


Nothing's wrong with your message, but its content made some people unhappy, and they used downvote as a 'disagree' button.

Frankly I think your take is right on. A vote for Hillary well may have been a vote for leadership that would continue to ignore the deteriorating parts of America, and Trump made the effort to pander and campaign to the people in those areas. Put on the cloak of the Christian right too, even though he is an obvious stranger to both spirituality and Judeo-Christian morality.


Its cool if you mostly stick to tech topics tbh.


I'm not looking to stan Obama, but I have to quibble with "Russian territorial expansions".

Losing Ukraine as a de facto puppet state and having to invade to keep critical port infrastructure in the Crimea isn't an expansion, it's a mitigated loss.


> he's always come across as well thought out and pragmatic

Some people hate him because he's thoughtful and pragmatic. They appeal to emotion or faith, not intellect. Their goal is cataclysm, not stability. It sounds crazy, it is crazy, but from boogaloo bros to evangelicals it's a lot of Trump's base. Oh, and he's black. That matters a lot to an overlapping segment of that base, outweighing literally any other personal qualities he might have.


I think you’re missing that Obama’s decency and pragmatism are also emotional appeals to a certain kind of person. Personally it feels like bullshit to me (less bullshitty than Trump but still rings false).

More importantly, Obama’s decency or Trump’s lack thereof are mostly irrelevant to what many people want out of a president. For example, I want Medicare for all, a green new deal, no more drone strikes, nationalized internet, etc. We’re more likely to get those things by being angry, not by being civil.


  decency and pragmatism are also emotional appeals
  ...
  We’re more likely to get those things by being angry
I think it's clear whether Obama's supporters or detractors are relying on emotional appeals.


> I don't get why the Trumpers hate Obama so much... he's always come across as well thought out and pragmatic.

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this but a large number of people just can't accept that a Black man should live in the white house. That black man can be the best person in the world and this set of population can still not accept him due to reptilian hatred.

You can't generalize every supporter obviously but you can see it from which policies of Trump get the most support. It's not like Trump actually improved quality of life for anyone but he sure did tickle the reptilian hatred.


I don't know why this was down voted. This is pretty much it - white non-college educated males went crazy because someone beneath them was President..


Lol go travel. Why would you waste 3 perfectly good weeks doing the same thing you do all the time for your job?


Unfortunately travel is not allowed where I live, still under lockdown :(


You can't go anywhere? Just drive/rent a car and go somewhere within 2 hours, in nature. Muse on life, hike. Way more "productive" than anything else.


Nah, I can't go further than 20km away


Damn what country? Maybe just go for some hikes around and try some mushrooms.


Melbourne in Australia. Restrictions will be easing very soon though :)

But yeah basically lockdown in some form or another since mid March here


What kind of fool would vote 3rd party in an election with the gravity of this one?

This isn't the time to make some symbolic stand, it's time to vote Trump out - if that's what you believe in.


I am making a stand to not support either of the corrupt big parties in the US. I can't vote for one guy only because the other guy is bad. The democrats should have put up a candidate people actually want to vote for. They didn't do that either in 2016 or 2020. Not being Trump is not a good program.


Do the Democratic party have their collective heads in the sand? What were they thinking putting forward Biden.

If they lose this election it's because they threw it. All they had to do was field anyone in good health (Biden isn't) who wasn't widely detested and they would have had it in the bag.

The party system in the US leaves so much to be desired.


Hey I liked Buttigieg. But the whole point is the party system creates a coalition. Who better represents your worldview? Vote for that person.

Trump's worldview is destructive and idiotic, so then vote for his opponent.


Biden is fine, he'll return decision-making to normalcy and be a one term President. Then we can try 2 new candidates in 4 years. Imagine the next 4 years with Biden and then with Trump. Which one seems less erratic and dangerous?

Your point is being wasted, and another 4 regressive years of Trump all because you wanted to make a point that won't be heeded or come through at all.

How about the 3rd parties field a candidate people actually want to vote for? Not some fringe ideology.


For a 3rd party to be able to get a sustainable foothold the election system probably has to change. The hurdle is just too high. Personally I think a certain number of seats in the house should not get assigned by winning districts but by countrywide votes. For example, if you get 5% of the votes, you get some seats. Having more parties would force the big parties to compromise.

As far as the democrats go, my prediction is that they will find another uninteresting candidate in 2024 and keep standing for nothing. Maybe its's Pelosi's turn?


So basically it's like a list to an exclusive nightclub. There's 500 limit. You pay money to get your name on the list early, and then you can sell your spot later for more.

This is what a "store of value" is. A way to capture your value and preserve it.

If the blockchain is truly immutable, then Bitcoin could end up being a store of value with the early adopter effect.

Honestly I think that USD or whatever will always have value because you have to pay taxes in it.

A government will always have ultimate control of it's country. When Bitcoin becomes a problem for the US, China, or whatever ultimate power there is in the world... if it comes down to it they can just use their supercomputer to take control of the blockchain and invalidate it.


China's plan is definitely to absorb countries into their growing economic sphere. Then they absorb countries into their network/techno-sphere by selling communication and surveillance equipment.

This will allow them to assist the leaders in power by swaying public opinion at a whim. Further consolidating control. This pushes out western companies and doesn't allow their capital to operate.

Eventually this "virus" will reach the main western countries and engulf them. The capitalist system will be turned against itself.

In the past, you couldn't automate the managing of perception and access like you can now with a "technosphere" of capabilities that increase by the year.

They exploit weaknesses like the "racial divide" to pit us against each other, to hasten this.


Yup, and you could say that's the strength of a well-lead homogenous country.

That's why although i'm more left-leaning, the constant focus of the left on subgroups being wronged is laughable and such a distraction from the reality of the world. China and their technological superiority and increasing economic sphere doesn't care.


I'm not even sure you need to be that well-lead when you're a homogenous country. Alignment tends to be self-evident and incentives are more likely to be shared/common. Emergent phenomena of the group aligns with the interest of the individual.

Where you need good leadership is when you have heterogenous groups that lack coherent alignment and need to be brought together to establish consensus.


Seriously. There are so many right wing that think they are a paper tiger, and there's so many left CCP apologists that cloud the discussion in their own way.

The West needs a completely unbiased body to release a report to the world about where stuff stands. Nobody wants a conflict. We realize our systems are like two huge tectonic plates about to grind against each other... but let's fix it


China looks like Japan in the 20s and 30s. Rapidly developing country, with territorial ambitions around the seas /islands close to the coast, and a almost predatory commercial way of doing business, and a almost nazi like squashing of minorities.

History doesn't exactly repeats itself, but it certainly rhythms...


This isn't comparable at all. The territorial expansion was always difficult to sustain and grew from a ravenous, irrational ethnonationalist political culture and the need for oil and other industrializing resources. China's mode of imperialism is inherently based on China's geography and centralized bureaucracy. There is no analogue of the Emperor being both absolutely powerful and removed from day to day decision making. There's not much analogue to the ethnonationalism angle either, their apparent persecution of the Uighurs stems from internal social control, not fueling a war machine, and they've adopted the soviet multinational state. The CCP is much more politically & economically competent and geographically stable than Japan was leading into WWII. The idea of japan attacking pearl harbor was arguably inevitable, but the idea of china doing that is beyond ridiculous.


He's probably just drawing the comparison as a warning. Because when it comes down to it, the CCP has developed a ethnonationalism of it's own. And that's a powerful thing when the rest of the world is actively trying to shed their identity and become multiculti.


I don't get Node JS. It seems like you just need to somehow know the function for a specific version of it, and stuff changes all the time. And there's not really a good auto-suggestion.

You need to know the args, and it just seems "hacky". Like it's good to write something small when you know what functions you use etc... but just not stable for big stuff.


I can’t really agree with this, especially not since the advent of typescript. There’s not a dynamic language in existence with better tooling than JavaScript. You open up a js file in vscode or webstorm or whatever, and the typescript language server kicks in so you get type hints for all your code. If you switch to typescript it’s a whole other level of type safety.

Also, it seems like your comment could be generalized to include all dynamic language runtimes, not just Nodejs.


Yeah i guess. I don't really know that much about it anyway. I like Java, the IDE is so rich for it. Just makes writing so easy.


Node.js still implements CommonJS callback-style APIs (for web, file i/o etc) and module loading, specified in 2009 or so. "Stuff changing all the time" really isn't doing justice to Node.js. IMO, the Node.js API turned out to be very much on the stable side of things, yet also sports eg upcoming QUIC support


That's not even remotely true. Node's core library stability is exemplary - it is near-impossible to make breaking changes to it, even across many major versions.

You can set up most IDEs to get excellent auto completion - VS Code does a good job of that kind of thing.


That's more of a JS issue than Node issue. The problem you are describing is one of 10 years ago, but not so much today, so long as you have a decent IDE. Intellij is the best IDE out there for autocompletion/intellisense of JS.


> And there's not really a good auto-suggestion. You need to know the args

IDEs do spoil people.


I can't write dynamic languages because of this. I would often not know what type a function expects or returns if it wasn't for compile time suggestions (which in turns allows language servers).

Makes scripting languages really hard for me to use as a consequence.


I think this is one of the main reasons why TypeScript got so popular, the other reason being the excellent support for it in Visual Studio Code. Before adopting TypeScript, I'd have to read documentation in a wide variety of documentation styles and standards, and then manually ensure that I was calling the right functions with the right arguments (or - alternatively, if I was lazy - I'd just write some shim code and attach a debugger to figure out the call signatures of callback functions). With TypeScript and type hints installed for the libraries I'm using, instead I just let my editor hand out typing information and autocomplete hits, and let the typescript compiler do type checking.

If anything, TypeScript sometimes feels like a nice middle-ground between C# and JavaScript (and Java?), and though it's not perfect, I do feel that it's pleasurable once you get the hang of it and the quirks of the ecosystem.


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